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Location: Sweden
Started playing Quake TDM in 1997.

Creator of eQuake, fQuake and nQuake.
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Misc  /  30 Oct 2007, 19:39
News on nQuake
It's been a while since I last wrote something about nQuake in here. So I thought I would make an update, and reveal my latest plans!
I have some time over this week so I thought I would check out nQuake and see if there was anything that I could improve. The old "to-do" list told me to create an offline installer generator for nQuake, and after a moment's thought, I started coding. So let me explain what this offline installer generator does, and why it's a good thing...

1) Modem users can borrow a friend's connection to download nQuake

I understand the frustration from those who are still stuck with crappy connections and want to be able to download nQuake, and bring it home. This way they won't have to sit and wait for nQuake to download for 15 hours using their shitty modem. This offline installer generator will download nQuake and create the necessary files for a CD installer, allowing you to burn a Quake CD and bring wherever you go.

2) Spreading QuakeWorld will be a lot easier

This will probably piss some of you off, but this offline installer generator will make it really easy to create an ISO image of nQuake, allowing it to be easily distributed on torrent sites and through other p2p programs. This wasn't as easy before, but now it's just a few clicks away. It will be very easy to include pak1.pak in such an image.

3) Making a backup of your Quake will be a lot easier

After running the offline installer generator, you will have a folder containing a few setup files along with a data folder. In this data folder, you can add/remove/change anything you wish. This will allow you to create an "nQuake installation" that contains your config, your demos, your <whatever>. You can later choose to install nQuake using the installation program, or simply by dragging the data folder over to the harddrive and renaming it to Quake (or whatever). Doing the latter will allow you to avoid registry changes and start menu items, which I know some of you prefer.

4) Linux users might benefit from #2

Since creating ISO images or ZIP/RAR archives of nQuake will become such an easy task, Linux users can without much effort create their own backup CDs containing the appropriate binaries and whatnot. A Linux version of nQuake is planned and will hopefully arrive in time for Dreamhack!

EDIT: A Linux version of nQuake is now finished Get it at http://...nquake10_installer.tar.gz. A more official release will come shortly.

Well, that's all. Post any questions and I'll answer them.
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Comments
2007-10-30, 19:42
#1
Maybe people going to dh can each burn something like 5 cd's of nquake and give it out?
2007-10-30, 20:36
#2
offline generator is done now, can be tested out at PRESS HERE PLEASE

Edited by empezar on 30 Oct 07 @ 21:36CET
2007-10-30, 20:38
#3
Sounds good!
2007-10-30, 21:14
#4
most awesome angle up2nog00d.
concerning '4)' will that be made by i0h- or will it just be an adoption of nQuake?

Edited by ruskie on 30 Oct 07 @ 22:18CET
2007-10-30, 21:42
#5
dunno if i0h will be making the offline version. i will attempt to create a very light weight installer that simply does the job. if i0h has something up his sleeve i bet he will come forth.
2007-10-31, 08:05
#6
Would it be perfectly legal to burn CD's (with a nice cover of course) and give to random people at Dreamhack?
2007-10-31, 09:16
#7
Ake, I was thinking the same thing :-)
2007-10-31, 10:33
#8
That would be perfectly illegal!
2007-10-31, 11:43
#9
"That would be perfectly illegal!"

Would you care to elaborate? Is there a difference between distributing it on Internet and doing it on a CD?
2007-10-31, 12:46
#10
However i think copyright laws differs between countries. So you would have to look at the Swedish ones.
2007-10-31, 17:09
#11
i don't think it would be legal ake, even if pak1.pak wasn't included. this is due to GPL and the shareware license.
2007-10-31, 17:35
#12
How could it not be legal? You are spreading the same package online and it only contains GPL'd + shareware + fair use (graphics etc.) stuff?
2007-10-31, 17:57
#13
can't package gpl stuff with non gpl stuff, shareware quake is not gpl. shareware quake cannot be packaged with other stuff or modified. it has been modified. it breaks a lot of licenses by creating such a cd. having it as an online installer is a different thing, i distribute the files as individual zip files - gpl packaged in their own zips, software quake untouched in its own zip.
2007-10-31, 17:57
#14
it's another question if it's something that anyone would care about. it's still not legal though, just like jaywalking.
2007-10-31, 19:08
#15
I don't understand, we can't even release nquake?

If there's an offline nquake package being made, we still can't burn it onto a cd and give it out for free?
2007-10-31, 19:10
#16
but cant you do the same thing with the cd-isntaller, having the shareware quake in its own zip untuched so it dosnst violate the gpl?
2007-10-31, 20:56
#17
since we aren't distributing this on the internet, there's really no problem with handing it out for free to people (the cd that is). gpl and shareware license violations on cd-roms are not a priority for *anyone*
2007-10-31, 22:24
#18
who the fuck enforces this anyway?
only if there are complaints from big companies, organizations (RIAA, MPAA, game publishers) for mass scale copyright infringement you might get in trouble.. nobody will know about some 20 something free CDs and nobody will care even if they find out since it's all free stuff anyway no matter what the technicalities might not really validate..
2007-10-31, 22:35
#19
yes, the only place this would perhaps matter is in a magazine. if they were to include nquake on a magazine cd. then it COULD matter.
2007-11-01, 15:41
#20
Wouldn't it be possible to ask someone at ID or something? What the fuck do they care?! It would be free advertisement and shit!
2007-11-01, 15:46
#21
"who the fuck enforces this anyway?
only if there are complaints from big companies, organizations (RIAA, MPAA, game publishers) for mass scale copyright infringement you might get in trouble.. nobody will know about some 20 something free CDs and nobody will care even if they find out since it's all free stuff anyway no matter what the technicalities might not really validate.."

I'd imagine the dreamhack organizers could have something against distributing nquake.
2007-11-01, 16:34
#22
dreamhack has a '0 tolerance' policy against pirating software afaik. they even had some dude from antipiratbyran there and he was boooed from the stage
i wouldn't worry about it
2007-11-01, 17:26
#23
then ask dreamhack organizers if they think it's ok. what nquake does is lessen the (legal) steps needed to be taken to install quakeworld. it's all good this would probably not even be a problem if it was distributed on the internet since quakeworld has such a small audience.
2007-11-03, 15:38
#24
Hey, we could all "borrow" our legit copies to the guys at Dreamhack for those days. I have Quake 3 times and won't play on these days if you understand what I mean. ;D
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