I have to say that this is THE WORST thing that has happened in a while. How very stupid it has to be to play on a server that is TOTALLY outdated (over 2 years old server software, nice going, I wonder if it has the proper toggleable settings like spawns enabled, not that anyone would care I guess) and that it doesn't support QTV at all.
Now all the spectators who know whats best for them have to watch laggy and shitty qizmo cam and there are even problems with the amount of speclots! (how many of you missed the first round, heh (<-sarcasm)).
This is totally unacceptable. It's 2008 already, have your shit together. (yes, I'm annoyed)
Yeah I agree it's pretty stupid. I talked to the Suddendeath guys at 19:45 and asked them to arrange a server with KOFF asap so we could get cam situation under control, elect an admin, etc BEFORE all the specs and players come. They were all like "okay np!", but they didn't actually message us with the IP until exactly 20:59:13. I just double-clicked the IP they gave me, and wow, all spec slots full already, all players there already. And I didn't even know it didn't support QTV at that time. =|
we got 2 options. Play on quake.se with 15pl or play at csn without qtv... Try to update the server or fix quake.se servers so we can play without 15pl. Dont blame the players.
Damn it, I hope this wont happen during the finals
Not going to happen. tVS vs koff will be played on either suomicom or troopers so it's guaranteed to have QTV capability and those who want to bother themselves with Qizmo cams there are 4 slots for them.
Well don't get me wrong m0lle and ok98, I can understand you picked that server. In the end, the priority should be that the players can all play on the server. QTV and spec slots are the second thing to worry about, not the first thing. What bothered me was that I only got the IP when all 8 players were already on the server and all spec slots were already full. I messaged you guys over an hour before game-start to prevent exactly this from happening. When SA played vs tVS, they cooperated really well and told me the IP 15 minutes before any of the players came to the server. So I went there early, got myself elected, messaged IP to the cam people I had selected, etc - and once we were all set, the players joined. That's how it should work in the future too. Well... next time.
blown out of proportion a bit, but yeah, take home message is:
if you have to play on a server with no qtv, please make 100% sure that the tourney admins get on that server beforehand and set up all the cams so others can spec!
this is actually a testament to how awesome QTV is, because I think the players simply forgot about the way this used to be done in the "old days", and are now spoiled where all the "cams" are automatically taken care of by the qtv mega-cam <:
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