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2014-07-03, 15:24
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mushi! and dirtbox - QW Server Project:

We have been working hard setting up qw servers all around the world to fill gaps where they are needed. Here is our progress so far:
    Global QTV
  • qtv.besmella.com:28000 - QTV

    Amsterdam (there was no Antilag servers here for a long time)
  • nl.besmella.com:27500 - Qizmo
  • nl.besmella.com:28501 - KTX 1
  • nl.besmella.com:28502 - KTX 2
  • nl.besmella.com:30000 - QWfwd

    Los Angeles (this lowered AU pings to USA from 230ms to 170ms)
  • usa.besmella.com:27500 - Qizmo
  • usa.besmella.com:28501 - KTX 1
  • usa.besmella.com:28502 - KTX 2
  • usa.besmella.com:28503 - KTX 3
  • usa.besmella.com:30000 - QWfwd

    Melbourne
  • mel.besmella.com:27500 - Qizmo
  • mel.besmella.com:28501 - KTX 1
  • mel.besmella.com:28502 - KTX 2
  • mel.besmella.com:28503 - KTX 3
  • mel.besmella.com:30000 - QWfwd

    Lisbon (No other servers were existing in Portugal at all)
  • pt.besmella.com:27500 - Classic Fortress BETA
  • pt.besmella.com:27501 - KTX 1
  • pt.besmella.com:27502 - KTX 2
  • pt.besmella.com:30000 - QWfwd

    Tokyo 120ms from both USA and Australia
  • jp.besmella.com:28501 - KTX 1
  • jp.besmella.com:28502 - KTX 2
  • jp.besmella.com:30000 - QWfwd
  • Cable Link #1 Cable Link #2

    Argentina (with good routing to Chile and Brasil - added 23th October 2014)
  • ar.besmella.com:28501 - KTX 1
  • ar.besmella.com:28502 - KTX 2
  • ar.besmella.com:30000 - QWfwd
  • ar.besmella.com:28100 - Pro-X

    Brazil (added 23th October 2014)
  • br.besmella.com:28501 - KTX 1
  • br.besmella.com:28502 - KTX 2
  • br.besmella.com:30000 - QWfwd

    Chile (added 30th October 2014)
  • cl.besmella.com:28501 - KTX 1
  • cl.besmella.com:28502 - KTX 2
  • cl.besmella.com:28503 - Pro-X
  • cl.besmella.com:28504 - Rocket Arena
  • cl.besmella.com:30000 - QWfwd

    Other locations we are actively investigating:
    • Hawaii - with local routing to both USA and Australia (#1 on wish list) Cable Link
    • Guam - with local routing to both USA and Australia Cable Link #1 Cable Link #2
    • Auckland - with local routing to both USA and Australia (133ms from USA, 26ms from AU) Cable Link
    • Fiji - with local routing to both USA and Australia Cable Link
    • Iceland - New York to Iceland link is up beginning of 2015 (#2 on wish list) Cable Link
    • Fortaleza - more northern than existing Brazilian servers which will allow Brazilians to play Americans Cable Link
    • Puerto Rico - This has potential to connect Brazilians also. Cable Link


    (Edited 2015-07-07, 13:16)
2014-07-03, 15:42
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hello

yea me and dirtbox are the new vps world experts. if you want to run a server, ask us and you'll get the best deal.

one of my personal goals was to increase the number of qwfwd proxies. so ive asked mli to give me all the emails of server admins.
i have sent email to hundreds of server admins, of all quake games. since qwfwd already supports q3, those responded quicker. would be cool if qwfwd supported q2, im sure we would get some more qwfwd's...

Here's a list of qwfwd recently setup:
  • au.besmella.com QWfwd au.besmella.com:30000
  • Quake Brazil [QWFWD] 191.96.5.222:30000
  • Team Kuk BR [QWFWD] 54.94.131.164:30000
  • eX Proxy ex.2ex.in:30000
  • Amazon EC2 Ireland KTX QWfwd ie.besmella.com:30000 removed because of bad routing
  • NQUAKESV_HOSTNAME QWfwd sergejc.com:30000
  • old.nl.besmella.com QWfwd Amsterdam old.nl.besmella.com:30000
  • nl.besmella.com KTX QWfwd nl.besmella.com:30000
  • yaem.org QWfwd yaem.org:30000
  • Zombie Wipeout QWFWD qw.zwo.no:30000
  • q3srv.ru:1 q3srv.ru:1
  • unknown qw2.ru:30000
  • Burgh Gaming QWFWD bgel02.burgh.net:30000
  • miami.usa.besmella.c om KTX QWfwd miami.usa.besmella.com:30000
  • usa.besmella.com QWfwd - Los Angeles usa.besmella.com:30000
  • jp.besmella.com QWfwd jp.besmella.com:30000
  • DRAGON QWfwd www.kapos-net.hu:27502
  • sfo.usa.besmella.com QWFWD sfo.usa.besmella.com:30000
  • ar.besmella.com
  • br.besmella.com
  • cl.besmella.com:30000

ill try to keep this updated

(Edited 2014-10-30, 12:37)
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2014-07-03, 15:54
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amazing =)
ProjectQ1Q3, Frogbot Waypoint and Map Conversion Tutorial @ http://mickkn.mooo.com
2014-07-03, 17:04
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LUXURY!
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2014-07-03, 19:27
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Excellent job!
2014-07-03, 20:40
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Chile has recently lost all of it's QW servers. There were some games going on but now people do not have a place shoot each other with rockets. I've been thinking of getting a VPS from Edis and setting up some servers there. A good place to hunt for VPS's at exotic locations is Exoticvps.com.
2014-07-03, 21:13
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We really want to get a server up in Hawaii that has local routing to both Australia and USA but we cannot find one yet.
2014-07-03, 21:21
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I've been trying to find one too but routing always seems to go from au <-> los angeles <-> hawaii.
2014-07-03, 21:44
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Yes exactly. Some even go Australia-Singapore-LA-Hawaii... Even though the cables go Australia-Hawaii-LA

http://www.submarinecablemap.com/#/submarine-cable/southern-cross-cable-network-sccn

Our other option was getting one in New Zealand but the pings would be so high for Americans I doubt anyone would play there... (Routing is direct both ways in NZ)
2014-07-03, 23:37
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Woohoo!! New Irish servers. Nice one guys
2014-07-04, 08:16
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RaggA wrote:
Woohoo!! New Irish servers. Nice one guys
How well do you ping there?
2014-07-04, 09:42
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dirtbox wrote:
How well do you ping there?


Averaging about 38.
2014-07-04, 09:58
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Nice work!
2014-07-04, 10:58
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RaggA wrote:
Averaging about 38.
We might actually move these servers. The existing Irish servers at ktx.quake.ie actually ping lower for most people. I ping only 4ms less but that is the difference between getting 26ms and 38ms in game. We will monitor how much they are used and if they are not then we will move the server.
2014-07-04, 14:09
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Yeah the connections round Ireland can be a bit slow. I'm playing from Belfast in Northern Ireland, my connection to the quake.ie servers is usually around 35. To put this in context, my connection to BaseQ in France is about 35 and xs4all in Holland is usually around 40!!
2014-07-05, 08:27
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RaggA wrote:
Yeah the connections round Ireland can be a bit slow. I'm playing from Belfast in Northern Ireland, my connection to the quake.ie servers is usually around 35. To put this in context, my connection to BaseQ in France is about 35 and xs4all in Holland is usually around 40!!
Hey Ragga, I'd be interested to see if North Ireland goes via London to Ireland.

Can you post a traceroute to ie.besmella.com and ktx.quake.ie?

Cheers
2014-07-05, 23:00
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i've talked to admin of Sobol UK servers, which have great ping to nl and france... he is hosting them at rackspace, which is a bit expensive.
he also told me that in 6 months those servers will be moved to aws ec2 located in ireland..
never argue with an idiot. they'll bring you back to their level and then beat you with experience.
2014-07-07, 15:18
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This any use to you?

traceroute to ktx.quake.ie (78.137.161.109), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 80.76.216.2 0.183 ms 0.374 ms 0.351 ms
2 95.128.48.41 0.330 ms 0.307 ms 0.517 ms
3 95.128.48.43 0.450 ms 0.428 ms 0.406 ms
4 195.66.237.149 1.355 ms 1.602 ms 1.648 ms
5 78.137.184.1 10.018 ms 10.048 ms 10.063 ms
6 78.137.186.225 10.388 ms 10.683 ms 10.840 ms
7 78.137.185.2 10.450 ms 10.546 ms 10.642 ms
8 78.137.184.186 10.261 ms 89.234.82.202 10.356 ms 10.573 ms
9 78.137.161.109 10.669 ms 10.544 ms 10.627 ms

traceroute to ie.besmella.com (54.77.23.195), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 80.76.216.2 0.354 ms 0.309 ms 0.285 ms
2 95.128.48.41 0.487 ms 0.469 ms 0.447 ms
3 195.72.128.122 1.143 ms 0.880 ms 1.164 ms
4 62.149.52.1 67.289 ms 67.334 ms 67.371 ms
5 62.149.50.138 1.365 ms 1.419 ms 1.456 ms
6 * 195.66.225.175 0.878 ms 0.845 ms
7 178.236.3.51 14.621 ms 14.662 ms 178.236.3.53 11.323 ms
8 176.32.106.27 11.369 ms 176.32.106.34 11.304 ms 11.321 ms
9 178.236.0.173 11.173 ms 178.236.0.187 11.082 ms 178.236.0.189 14.802 ms
10 178.236.0.206 12.266 ms 178.236.0.210 18.735 ms 178.236.0.208 18.209 ms
11 178.236.0.213 12.406 ms 12.312 ms 12.221 ms
12 54.77.23.195 12.443 ms 12.479 ms 12.207 ms
2014-07-07, 15:37
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can you do it keeping the hostnames?
2014-07-07, 15:46
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Sorry dude. This better?

$ traceroute -a -q 3 -w 3 -m 30 ktx.quake.ie
1 [AS8468] gi3-4.telford-dc1.core.enta.net (78.33.39.217) 0.368 ms 0.357 ms 0.200 ms
2 [AS8468] te2-1.telford-dc3.core.enta.net (188.39.127.3) 0.354 ms 0.357 ms 0.353 ms
3 [AS8468] te3-2.bir.core.enta.net (188.39.127.7) 1.759 ms 1.761 ms 1.757 ms
4 [AS8468] te2-2.interxion.core.enta.net (188.39.127.86) 5.036 ms 5.037 ms 4.880 ms
5 [AS8468] te4-2.telehouse-east.core.enta.net (188.39.127.76) 18.451 ms
6 [AS10026] linx1.thn.uk.viatel.net (195.66.225.149) 5.816 ms 5.662 ms 5.659 ms
7 [AS31122] 78.137.184.1 (78.137.184.1) 14.555 ms 14.560 ms 14.551 ms
8 [AS31122] 78.137.186.225 (78.137.186.225) 14.974 ms 14.868 ms 15.020 ms
9 [AS31122] 78.137.185.2 (78.137.185.2) 14.863 ms 15.030 ms 14.866 ms
10 [AS31122] 78.137.184.186 (78.137.184.186) 26.409 ms
[AS31122] gi-5-2.dub-bdtn-ar4.net.digiweb.ie (89.234.82.202) 32.051 ms
[AS31122] 78.137.184.186 (78.137.184.186) 20.798 ms
11 [AS31122] ip-78-137-161-109.dedi.digiweb.ie (78.137.161.109) 14.867 ms 14.866 ms 14.864 ms
$


$ traceroute -a -q 3 -w 3 -m 30 ie.besmella.com
1 [AS8468] gi3-4.telford-dc1.core.enta.net (78.33.39.217) 0.371 ms 0.363 ms 0.200 ms
2 [AS8468] te2-1.telford-dc3.core.enta.net (188.39.127.3) 0.354 ms 0.356 ms 0.353 ms
3 [AS8468] te3-2.bir.core.enta.net (188.39.127.7) 1.760 ms 1.767 ms 1.764 ms
4 [AS8468] te2-2.interxion.core.enta.net (188.39.127.86) 6.128 ms 13.931 ms 18.762 ms
5 [AS8468] te4-2.telehouse-east.core.enta.net (188.39.127.76) 5.038 ms 5.038 ms 5.034 ms
6 [AS10026] 195.66.225.175 (195.66.225.175) 5.190 ms 5.194 ms 20.011 ms
7 [AS16509] 178.236.3.53 (178.236.3.53) 20.640 ms
[AS16509] 178.236.3.51 (178.236.3.51) 18.928 ms 15.335 ms
8 [AS16509] 176.32.106.34 (176.32.106.34) 18.919 ms 15.341 ms 18.923 ms
9 [AS16509] 178.236.0.173 (178.236.0.173) 29.841 ms
[AS16509] 178.236.0.191 (178.236.0.191) 19.238 ms
[AS16509] 178.236.0.171 (178.236.0.171) 37.174 ms
10 [AS16509] 178.236.0.206 (178.236.0.206) 26.100 ms
[AS16509] 178.236.0.208 (178.236.0.208) 17.520 ms 17.991 ms
11 [AS16509] 178.236.0.213 (178.236.0.213) 17.516 ms 17.517 ms 17.515 ms
12 [AS16509] ec2-54-77-23-195.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com (54.77.23.195) 15.799 ms 15.958 ms 15.800 ms
$
2014-07-08, 12:08
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Looks kinda like you go via the UK before Ireland
2014-07-08, 14:07
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We found super cheap VPS in NL, UK and USA, something like 1.50 USD / month
if you want to host a server or anything, we can give u tips. msg us.
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2014-07-10, 08:08
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Even cheaper in USA. These guys will do a server for $1/month: http://www.chicagovps.net/openvz.html

It is only for 128MB of RAM but it is able to burst higher. We are using the same specs on our Miami servers and they are able to run 1x Qizmo, 2x KTX and 1x qwfwd.
2014-07-10, 14:49
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New update... We just temporarily started up new servers in the following locations and tested pings between them (and from Sydney/Los Angeles):
  • Oregon
  • North California
  • Tokyo
  • Singapore
The interesting thing is that pings between both N.California/Oregon to Tokyo AND Sydney to Tokyo are both 120. So potentially we can see some equal ping games between USA and Australia @ 120ms. Expect a server up there soon!
2014-07-11, 08:45
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Excellent (Y)
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2014-07-11, 08:58
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If we ever meet, let me buy you guys a beer each. Holy mother of ****; fantastic work!
2014-07-11, 09:32
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Rikoll wrote:
If we ever meet, let me buy you guys a beer each. Holy mother of ****; fantastic work!
We will take you up on that

We actually need 3 volunteers. Amazon is offering FREE VPS servers (1 per person) for 12 months. Which means we can get servers up for free in the following locations but we just need people to sign up an account and create a linux server there which won't cost you a cent for a year (shut them down once they are no longer free). We've already done the groundwork for testing latency at each of these locations:
  • US East (N. Virginia) - Need volunteer
  • US West (Oregon) - Need volunteer
  • US West (N. California) - Up now (big thanks to Rikoll)
  • Asia Pacific (Tokyo) - Up now (mushi)
  • Asia Pacific (Sydney) - Up now (dirtbox)
  • South America (São Paulo) - Up now (kuk) but maybe down again.
  • EU (Ireland) - Bad routing, no point
  • Asia Pacific (Singapore) - Bad routing, no point
All you need to do is sign up an account for AWS EC2 http://aws.amazon.com/free/ and do the verification check and give myself or mushi the login details and we will do everything else. You just need to put 12 months in to your calendar to let us know to shut them down again.

(Edited 2014-07-17, 08:31)
2014-07-13, 09:28
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This week we saw some games being played between players who previously could never play against each other:
  • / dirtbox (120ms) vs Kernell (130ms) - on the new Miami servers.
  • / dirtbox (120ms) vs auei (130ms) - on the new Miami servers.
  • BogoJoker (130ms) vs phelon (130ms) - on the new Tokyo servers.
  • BogoJoker (130ms) vs sting (130ms) - on the new Tokyo servers.
For the people willing to play with a bit higher latency we are already seeing new match ups being played that were never seen before! We definitely have the possibility for a world-wide high ping tourney
2014-07-13, 23:47
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WOW this is really amazing! Nice! Quakeworld to take over the world! =P
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2014-07-14, 04:14
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AMAZING!!!! good games with Dirtbox!!!!!
(never thought I would play against an Australian with this ping)
("Austalian" right dirtbox?)
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