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2008-05-20, 16:40
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for (i = 0; i < 64; i++)
{
end[0] = seen->v.origin[0] + offsetrandom(seen->v.mins[0], seen->v.maxs[0]);
end[1] = seen->v.origin[1] + offsetrandom(seen->v.mins[1], seen->v.maxs[1]);
end[2] = seen->v.origin[2] + offsetrandom(seen->v.mins[2], seen->v.maxs[2]);

tr = SV_ClipMoveToEntity (sv.edicts, start, vec3_origin, vec3_origin, end);

This looks like an excellent investment of server CPU resources!
2008-05-20, 21:28
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I know, I know... its a hog but u get back what you waste in the end by not drawing all the entities out of view. I havent noticed any side effects on the servers, most cpus > 1Ghz.
You CAN create a cvar for the 64 in that loop if you prefer, but then any model that's center is blocked, will be visible 1/nth thus creating a blink effect. 64 works best, I tested it on DM3 one player standing on upper bridge, another in lower doorway towards mound. from The doorway pov, looking towards water, I can see the "knees" of the other player. <64 either not visible or blinks.


MH has a better Z-Buffer method, http://mhquake.blogspot.com/2008/03/entity-occlusion.html ...
2008-05-22, 21:18
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Right now on Elvis Victims FFA.

Nick: Bumsniff (english urban insult) - 95ms ping

F_version:
zQuake 0.14
Qizmo 2.91


/PaRa
2008-05-22, 22:36
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So... is anyone going to apply some bans then? Because now he's gone back to uk2 Qizmo on xs4all and there's also another (different) cheater at the same time called "heres JOHNNY!" who appears to be using a bot with Autofire+Aim (might be Richmark's QuakeBot).

I'd post his IP but what's the point if it's dynamic?

Funny really because the last time I remember a cheat problem like this was about 8 years ago on BarrysWorld etc.. but that guy turned out to be Swedish
2008-05-23, 20:05
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I just tried running a server on MVDSV 0.28b, build 744 (w) Build date: Apr 22 2008, 17:24:07 with sv_getrealip "1" and got a friend to connect via uk2 Qizmo but it still showed his IP as 213.232.95.125... did I do something wrong?

yay double post
2008-05-24, 01:03
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guy is at xs4all now, via uk2 london qizmo and faking as konk. ruining the game with an aimbot. his team is set to "clawhornboysinthehood" btw.
it's the one using zquake 0.14
2008-05-24, 08:58
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gore wrote:
I'd post his IP but what's the point if it's dynamic?

Enough said?
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2008-05-24, 16:19
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I suppose it's not possible to ban his entire ISP then? (*.karoo.kcom.com) I've also been informed who it actually is and he may well be in EQL summer this season but without proper evidence I don't want to point accusing fingers

Ah well.. I guess you can keep kicking him until he just gets fed up.. but as I've even seen him connecting to Brazil then it's clearly an addiction :|

EDIT: He's also started faking as other players for some reason including me(lol?),fifi and konk
2008-05-24, 22:22
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I told Gore who it is and Ive asked him to stop. Tell me if he starts botting again.
2008-05-25, 16:48
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There was a guy last night at Nobody's Alternative FFA in the USA with 130ms, I assume it was the same fellow. Decent player I guess cause he knew tricks and how to bunny, and then the 50% snap LG with 130ms.
2008-05-26, 01:01
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This cheating thing is getting a bit out of control. They all use zquake client, i think it would be best to block zquake client. That client isnt even allowed on tourneys.
2008-05-26, 07:25
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MatriX wrote:
This cheating thing is getting a bit out of control. They all use zquake client, i think it would be best to block zquake client. That client isnt even allowed on tourneys.

YES!
2008-05-26, 11:11
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I _STRONGLY_ disagree on banning certain client serverside. Not only is it an insult towards ToniK (the developer) but also those players who use it and don't cheat. Get d*****bot and compile it and there's your aimbot that works with all games, including MQW and ezQuake. Should we ban those clients too?

Bottomline: I refuse to update my servers to such build that explicitly bans certain client, it's wrong approach. MVDSV will not be getting such ability.
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2008-05-26, 11:31
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Although, MVDSV is open source and thus anyone can implement such a feature in a custom MVDSV build. However I also do disagree on the approach as a permanent solution, it might be a temporary solution to make them tired. Did you try banning the UK2 Qizmo first?
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2008-05-26, 11:47
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But it still wouldn't be officially endorsed. Anyone can use whatever hacks on their servers if they wish.

Does this cheater use hacked client that reports false IP-address? If not then banning UK2 Qizmo is totally useless because real-ip ban will hit even with ip-range bans.
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2008-05-26, 12:48
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Voteban seems the most reasonable solution here.
2008-05-26, 16:10
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It's actually kinda funny how he's still not banned really.. I don't suppose you can just ban *.karoo.kcom.com from ffa servers? Personally I don't play ffa but I'm sure there's more chance of the legit players getting bored than this weirdo. Oh and Elvis Victims FFA‡|80ms|194.190.194.178:27500 should probably ban UK2 Qizmo AND Dybbuk Qizmo :/

Pretty sure he reads this topic too so "Hi cage/k!d/etc.. stop cheating like a fucking newb kthxbi"
2008-05-26, 17:13
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He's faking a lot: gore, nih, molgrum, bent, konk

BTW it were two or perhaps even three people this afternoon. One faked/is as Matri][ as well
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2008-05-26, 19:06
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Renzo wrote:
I _STRONGLY_ disagree on banning certain client serverside. Not only is it an insult towards ToniK (the developer) but also those players who use it and don't cheat. Get d*****bot and compile it and there's your aimbot that works with all games, including MQW and ezQuake. Should we ban those clients too?

Bottomline: I refuse to update my servers to such build that explicitly bans certain client, it's wrong approach. MVDSV will not be getting such ability.

hum... ok. Voteban seems a logical solution, i was just trying to see if was possible to block cheats somehow instead of keep kicking them.
2008-05-26, 19:39
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Banning clients based purely on what they claim to be is pointless. You can easily modify clients to pretend to be a different client.

Voting for bans looses something in duels...
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2008-05-26, 21:23
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the best solution is always the simplest..

give admin to a trusted few in the servers so you dont even have to waste time with voteban
2008-05-26, 21:38
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The simplest solution is obviously CTRL-C
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2008-05-26, 23:30
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Renzo wrote:
Bottomline: I refuse to update my servers to such build that explicitly bans certain client, it's wrong approach. MVDSV will not be getting such ability.

Thank you for taking a hard line against reactionary and ineffective preventive measures against cheating. Respect++

JohnNy_cz wrote:
Voteban seems the most reasonable solution here.

[+]
2008-05-27, 10:06
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gore wrote:
It's actually kinda funny how he's still not banned really.. I don't suppose you can just ban *.karoo.kcom.com from ffa servers? Personally I don't play ffa but I'm sure there's more chance of the legit players getting bored than this weirdo. Oh and Elvis Victims FFA‡|80ms|194.190.194.178:27500 should probably ban UK2 Qizmo AND Dybbuk Qizmo :/

Pretty sure he reads this topic too so "Hi cage/k!d/etc.. stop cheating like a fucking newb kthxbi"

um, are you SURE this is the guy cheating? i know him... infact hes in my clan (dogs) playing as lion... how are you sure it is him?
2008-05-27, 10:38
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whoever is doing it has managed to completely kill ffa on xs4all now... so well done to them they must go to bed with a huge hard on each night
2008-05-27, 13:47
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I've contacted Flepser at the time when there were two cheaters. I specced them and they were often hanging in the sky/void and their player models vibrated fast. At that moment, their nicks were 'nounce' and 'timmied', but it seems indeed they change their nicks and probably use proxyservers too.

A couple of days ago, there was a cheater again and the only succesful way I found to make him leave is to massively stop playing and start spectating the cheater, so there's no one left to frag for the cheater. I then started typing messages like: "Nice to walk around by yourself, isn't it" and "yes the walls look nice, don't they". Etc, etc.. Everyone started laughing about it and this way it was not fun anymore for the cheater and after a few minutes he left.


BTW: Milton was online too at xs4all when I was there and actually beat the cheater in fragcount and was telling him (the cheater ) what kind of loser he was for not being able to win, despite using an aimbot. But ofcourse when there's two cheaters that work together (which they did), this becomes virtually impossible.
2008-05-27, 13:56
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Anyway, in quake4 I remember you had "vote - kick username", which was great. That way you can just kick someone instead of banning the wrong username (when the cheater uses other people's nicks).
2008-05-27, 13:58
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The problem is the server admin is afraid of players kick/baning campers later also.
And the mod coder seems rather inactive in this case.
2008-05-27, 13:59
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megalodon wrote:
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BTW: Milton was online too at xs4all when I was there and actually beat the cheater in fragcount and was telling him (the cheater ) what kind of loser he was for not being able to win, despite using an aimbot. But ofcourse when there's two cheaters that work together (which they did), this becomes virtually impossible.

I think what we want to see is a 1on1 showdown between the cheater and milton. Would be like the Kasparov vs deep blue thing. Perhaps we could build up some hype around the game. Man vs Machine,QTV, Cams, Livestream, Make some interviews with both etc..

And if milton wins, we would develop some new cheats that he could use in the rematch.
2008-05-27, 15:58
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batfink wrote:
um, are you SURE this is the guy cheating? i know him... infact hes in my clan (dogs) playing as lion... how are you sure it is him?

Well, Krass used to live in Hull and he says it's him but if it isn't then I apologize in advance. But one of those cheaters definitely comes from there. Apparently there isn't many QW players there.

In fact, before EQL started, there was a clan that someone had signed up called TIDDLES if I remember correctly and if you check the comments there you can find :

#4 2008-04-30 20:48 by Tiddles (83.100.248.XXX)

Can we add my maps to the map pool? My dad walked in when i was having a wank and i shot my muck in his face.....oops

#5 2008-04-30 22:03 by buffy (83.100.248.XXX)

Yo! I am searching for an active clan, so \msg me at irc (nick buffy) if you are in need of a player. I am spastic, but dont care about the nationality of the clan.


Both the aimbotters mention buffy and tiddles at certain times and that IP ^ is also a Hull one.

QW really needs a feature where you can ban entire IP ranges
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