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2017-09-29, 15:42
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Hi!
Winter is coming!!!
I suppose this is a kind of temperature check on the scene as I've been away for some time.
I have no idea about activity - but I'm guessing from the short chat I had with some people even 4on4 mix is difficult to get going lately?


I have a bunch of different ideas for the European 4on4 scene (sorry rest of the world) - I'll just start with one.

But I have to ask first - are YOU able to set aside one or two hours a week to play 4on4 - no matter what kind of format that is in?
Will YOU be able to commit to showing up to play 4on4?
There will be no point in trying to do "anything" if we can't have 8.

So one of the ideas I have in my head is::


A.
Get a list of players that can commit to playing 4on4 ONCE a week for 1 1/2 hour.
**AT A FIXED TIME.**
Where we just do typical 4on4 mix with captains.

- 20ish minutes for chatting/organizing ourselves/waiting for slow pokes and cloud people.
- 1 hour for playing.
- 10 minutes for just being human and random shit.

B .
***We ALL go on MM3 TOGHETER on the same server*** (if someone doesn't want to come mm3, that's OK.)

Between,before and after every game we hop into the same channel and if anyone wants to chit chat for 5-10 minutes we do that before starting next game? (not a rule).

Personally I like to just play But for bonding and general community building just hanging out together in the same mm3 is productive.

C.
After 4-6 weeks of this - We see how it's going and evaluate how/if we are going to proceed in the future.

My hope is that we will be enough players to start fun small projects - like a small tournament or alike - or milton tries his 4on4 again etc - or perhaps someone else has an idea she wants to try.

But we have to start with people showing up - right?

D.
If we get an odd number - say 9/15 players - a procedure has to be in place to let everyone play. A players skill level can't be the factor that determines if you are playing or not. We need a general acceptance of this - and a way to make everyone play.
Someone that can tell the pro player that they need to let ocoini play now.

Some of us are like :
"Oh, I don't need to play - X player can play instead- you probably have more fun than me/are better than me - the team needs X person to play. " BEEEEP WRONG. You do need to play - you're thoughts are rubbish - you have as much right to play as everyone else. When you're not getting better/improving - it shuts down the entire process of a more fun game for everyone.

Some of us are like:
"Oh, I'm a really good player - I should play all the games - X person can't guard tele for shit and is constantly going to low to give away RL's" - BEEP WRONG. You're thoughts are rubbish - you're skill level does not give you the right to minimize the community as a whole.

E.
Can you be on a "list" for something like this?

If you commit to being on a list - do your best to actually show up!
While not being able to come is OKAY. Life does happen.
However there is no reason to be on said list if you don't want to play.
If you don't show up 3-4 times straight - ask yourself if you really want to play 4on4.
When you're constantly not showing up you are letting people down and wasting everyone's time.

If you are unsure if you can be on a list or not - ask you're self - Do you right now imagine you want to play 4on4 in a 5-10-15 years perspective? Do you want QuakeWorld 4on4 to be a part of your life?
Are you going to sit on the fence, and just hope that sometime in the future when you might want to play 4on4, there will "probably" be someone around. Or are you going to show right now to ensure that you'll actually have someone to play with in the future?

F.
When can you play/and show up... Wednesdays? 1800 cet? 1900?




Shortly: My other ideas revolve around making 4on4 tournaments more accessible - by doing a draft style each time. Where the captains ARE the team - and they chose players based on the ones that show up.

Also EVERYONE joining a "d99 type team" would be another idea - some way to bond togheter and gather us under something specific.

Not this more vague idea of a community as a whole - which is divided by different clans and clicks.
But a specific gathering point to draw everyone that likes to play 4on4 under it.
It COULD be as easy as just having a 4on4 channel - but I think it would be better if it was more specific. (of course people could still be in clans and such - but what is the point of focusing on typical clans when there is no-one to play against?
Better then :: To focus on gathering the resources you need to actually build other potential clans then right?




If people can actually gather around some common goals that we want to accomplish - and take the time to care about 4on4 QW - Then I'm sure we all can help with something and get back into it - and people will start playing again!

So could we at least set a goal? I just need ten'ish people that lives in EU/can play on UK server - if we get those ten people that can agree on a goal - then we can build from there.

So my suggestion of a goal:
Play 4on4 mix once a week for one hour - does ten other people want to share this goal with me?

(Edited 2017-09-29, 16:06)
Street Vendor Crack down Princess Cop
2017-09-29, 15:47
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I'm in - are you on discord ocoini?
2017-09-29, 15:56
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lordlame wrote:
I'm in - are you on discord ocoini?


no not yet - **stressing YET** I'm coming though !
It will be good if we all come discord (eventhough I don't like it But i'm just one person - everyone should go Discord now - cus BPS has descided that - and you' just want to listen to him cus he is BPS - not listing to BPS is worse then <<<< add anything >>>> you just do what BPS says - and everything will be fine!

Cool - we have two people - me and LordLame needs 6-8 more people !
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2017-09-29, 18:43
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ocoini wrote:
lordlame wrote:
I'm in - are you on discord ocoini?


no not yet - **stressing YET** I'm coming though !
It will be good if we all come discord (eventhough I don't like it But i'm just one person - everyone should go Discord now - cus BPS has descided that - and you' just want to listen to him cus he is BPS - not listing to BPS is worse then <<<< add anything >>>> you just do what BPS says - and everything will be fine!

Cool - we have two people - me and LordLame needs 6-8 more people !


Haha! Welcome back ocoiniman
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2017-09-29, 20:32
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I'm on this! :-)
i can play on Sundays.
2017-09-29, 20:58
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I don't even care reading the post. If it is ocoini's I'm in!
dev
2017-09-30, 10:22
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Temporarily out of action because of wrist injury. But as soon as I'm healed and have two working hands again I'm totally up for some 4on4. Not a great player but happy to make up numbers if needed.

Skill level: high div 6 - low/mid div 5
Availability: free most days of the week after 7pm UK time.
2017-10-06, 04:53
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I'm game the coming week, will be playing on kenya ping though.
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2017-10-06, 10:08
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Ake Vader wrote:
I'm game the coming week, will be playing on kenya ping though.


Technically not. You're still a couple thousand kilometers to the southwest?
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2017-10-06, 11:05
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andrestone wrote:
Ake Vader wrote:
I'm game the coming week, will be playing on kenya ping though.


Technically not. You're still a couple thousand kilometers to the southwest?

True, didn't realise it was that far when checking the map. :p Still routing is probably better from here though.
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I'm in for 4on4
Any date???
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