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2010-11-22, 22:31
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I am planning to purchase a new mouse, but I am a bit affraid of the middle mouse button, as nowdays it is the scroll wheel.
I am still playing with my Wingman Gaming Mouse, which is the best mouse I`ve ever had. No wheel, just good old 3 buttons. Is there any mouse out there where the middle button is not the scroll wheel? Or I don`t have to be affraid at all, just give it some time to get used to it?
2010-11-22, 23:42
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The biggest difference between the Wingman Gaming Mouse and most other mice is not the lack of a scroll wheel, but the fact that on the Wingman you have a finger (the middle one) dedicated to mouse3, while on most other mice you move your index finger to use mouse3. This is far more important than mouse3 being a scroll wheel or not, I think. You can get used to it though, but an ideal mouse for me would indeed have a dedicated finger for mouse3 still. I use an MX518 (MX500 series, G5 and G500 all have the same shape) and I don't have any problems with using scroll as shaft though.
2010-11-23, 00:24
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I took the laser from a Logitech g9 mouse and put inside my wingman gaming mouse. That is the best thing that has ever happened to me =)
All new mice with scroll suck ass for me.

If you decide on a new mouse. Please save the wingman. You never know =)
2010-11-23, 00:58
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Yeah Rille that was an awesome hack, I was lucky enough to be sitting next to Rille at QHLAN, so I got to see this unique item first hand!
2010-11-23, 07:30
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I think TCO used something similar. Another mouse sensor inside a wingman.

More on topic: No, I don't think you actually find a decent mouse for gaming with a third button instead of scroll atm.
2010-11-23, 09:28
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Whimp is using one, dunno how good it is, but it could do 500hz atleast
2010-11-24, 10:32
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that on the Wingman you have a finger (the middle one) dedicated to mouse3, while on most other mice you move your index finger to use mouse3

I do have dedicated middle finger for mouse3/wheel.

t0ma
I am happy with how it was done on my A4tech mouse. And I was not happy with it on Logitech: there was a good chance that when pressing mouse3 some mouse wheel event would be dispatched.

Many other people say just opposite.
So better test it on your own.
2010-11-24, 12:13
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Yep the mouse is a HP OPTICAL MOUSE and the HP product code is DY651A. It works perectly, but I have a proggy to change it to 500 Hz. I have a G9 for other games/applications.....

http://h30094.www3.hp.com/product.asp?sku=2545791 or

http://www.google.dk/images?hl=da&rls=com.microsoft:da&wrapid=tlif12906003349221&q=DY651A&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&ei=lP_sTKrFMY2aOs2CtK8B&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=3&ved=0CDwQsAQwAg&biw=1225&bih=805
2010-11-28, 00:32
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@Rille
This sounds interesting. How much `hacking` does it need?
2010-11-28, 04:06
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splitting one circuit board in half, finding one with laser that fits together with first half, connecting 6 wires in both ends on circuit boards.
thats about as much "hacking" that is needed.
2010-11-28, 16:03
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And the Logitech G9 got a board like that? I've thought about using that one for the same purpose, but it's a bit expensive to buy one without knowing if it will work
2010-11-28, 19:16
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just mod your wingman, its what i did
one of the good guys! so please don't ban - jogi.netdome.biz
2010-11-28, 21:41
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I had (have) a mouseman with 3buttons and a explorer 3.0 in it. Played with that mouse from 2000-2010. Changed to a razor deathadder some months ago. But now i dont use mouse3 at all. Becaus it sux. Had to change binds in qw instead. But im still satisfied with it. I dont have to change buttons in the mouse every year And its a bit smoother to play with. But it a chame that they dont sell mouses without scroll So.. buy a mouse with scroll and change binds! ) I know its hard. But after 3weeks u dont think about it any more.
2010-11-28, 23:26
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jogihoogi wrote:
just mod your wingman, its what i did

Yeah but from what Rille said, it sounded like you could just take half of the G9 and put it inside the wingman gaming mouse, and it would work np
2010-11-29, 01:22
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My advice is to put something on mouse3 that isn't that crucial e.g. I use it to shoot grenades. The wheel can actually be useful e.g. for teammsgs.
2010-11-29, 06:57
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Zalon wrote:
jogihoogi wrote:
just mod your wingman, its what i did

Yeah but from what Rille said, it sounded like you could just take half of the G9 and put it inside the wingman gaming mouse, and it would work np

Actually its half the wingman, all the g9 and then put it together inside the wingman shell =) circuitwise i mean..
Im thinking about buying a new g9x and do another one of mine =)
2010-11-29, 09:31
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HangTime wrote:
My advice is to put something on mouse3 that isn't that crucial e.g. I use it to shoot grenades. The wheel can actually be useful e.g. for teammsgs.

Yeah, I also use mouse3 for grenades and then I have my coming bind and pointing on the wheel so switching to one without wheel might be a bad idea :/

Rille wrote:
Actually its half the wingman, all the g9 and then put it together inside the wingman shell =) circuitwise i mean..

That was how I understood it yeah, but thats awesome
2010-11-29, 10:15
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Not missing the wheel but still really nice - http://hardware.gotfrag.com/portal/gallery/871/###
2010-11-29, 14:30
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Well my mouse (and Niw's) does not have a wheel and that rocks. It still does 500 HZ which is enough.........
2010-11-29, 16:45
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Heres mine
http://www.freepicsupload.com/pics/phpeRiVQi-P7300010.jpg

http://www.freepicsupload.com/pics/phpeRiVQi-P7300009.jpg
2010-11-29, 16:48
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Looks like a factory job.
2010-11-29, 18:04
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ikea mousemat ftw!
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