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2006-01-27, 12:14
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Yeah, 100% sure that he's using BOT. As told earlier his movement and tactic gameplay is worse than most div5 players, almlost looks like he learned to bunny-jump yesterday.

The EQL crew will decide what will happen to him and his clan during the day. I feel really sad and angry today. I don't play a game to face loosers like this. My verdict on this matter will be hard, I really hope the other admins feel the same way.
2006-01-27, 12:15
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he is a good guy i n real life and nobody could even imagine he is a cheater. thats why he played with aimbot so long and was not caught. besides his shaft was always really good but not fantastic, thats another reason
2006-01-27, 12:21
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The NQR crew will decide what will happen to him and his clan during the day.


We will? :?
2006-01-27, 12:24
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The NQR crew will decide what will happen to him and his clan during the day.


We will? :?


Sorry, just woke up. Edited my message now, so the problem is solved.
Thanx.
2006-01-27, 12:24
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>looks like he learned to bunny-jump yesterday.
when start u play qw, nopee?
2006-01-27, 12:29
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Hilarious when Znappe (i think) has quad and goes YA->Bridge. Ilf is on stairs/upper bridge with shaft and nails him down in like a millisecond and Znappe goes "wtf?".

It's a very sad thing that cheating goes on and i really hope that there aren't any more players who use those shitty things.
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2006-01-27, 12:31
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vader, but nonproblem for vets to rape nnm (with ilf, if i remember true) on russian server and high avegare pings?
2006-01-27, 12:33
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I play a lot of time with ilf on pov end dmm3 maps.
I think he do not use aimbot, reason:
I always checked his with f_version, f_modified and etc.
As far as I know he uses soft fuhquake 320x200 with big crest crosshair and he uses a small sensetivity, and, at last, he is very lazy man, he has not skill to use aimbot stuff ) he is not programmer or very good computerman . He is just a modest admin for windows and 1C
2006-01-27, 12:38
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vader, but nonproblem for vets to rape nnm (with ilf, if i remember true) on russian server and high avegare pings?


Nah, with the force of Arnold behind us, the fight against all childs of Skynet gets very easy you know. And i guess in QW today, it takes more than some brilliant aim every now and then to demolish a whole team. 1on1 on povdmm4 is another matter though...
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2006-01-27, 12:40
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How did he go unnoticed from security checks? Aimbot with color/imagetracking in background?
2006-01-27, 12:41
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hit clanmate and i had some chatting, i dont think they know about it:

ession Start: Fri Jan 27 11:08:26 2006
Session Ident: armadon
060127 [11:08:26] Session Ident: armadon (~armadon@195.225.129.66)
060127 &#91;11&#58;08&#58;26&#93; <armadon> hey
060127 &#91;11&#58;08&#58;29&#93; <Hangman-> hey
060127 &#91;11&#58;08&#58;33&#93; <armadon> &#58;&#41;
060127 &#91;11&#58;08&#58;36&#93; <Hangman-> sad
060127 &#91;11&#58;08&#58;36&#93; <armadon> my bad english
060127 &#91;11&#58;08&#58;40&#93; <armadon> nope
060127 &#91;11&#58;08&#58;48&#93; <armadon> i see now moment in dm3
060127 &#91;11&#58;08&#58;51&#93; <armadon> 9^25
060127 &#91;11&#58;08&#58;56&#93; <Hangman-> yea
060127 &#91;11&#58;09&#58;23&#93; <armadon> you mean in 9^25 use aimbot?
060127 &#91;11&#58;09&#58;31&#93; <Hangman-> with lg yea
060127 &#91;11&#58;09&#58;35&#93; <armadon> why?
060127 &#91;11&#58;09&#58;46&#93; <Hangman-> well, the whole e1m2 speaks for itselfe
060127 &#91;11&#58;09&#58;57&#93; <Hangman-> he uses sg all the time, and he have 50%+
060127 &#91;11&#58;10&#58;22&#93; <armadon> he started fire shaft whrn see light from quadded enemy
060127 &#91;11&#58;10&#58;28&#93; <armadon> he started fire shaft when see light from quadded enemy
060127 &#91;11&#58;10&#58;38&#93; <Hangman-> yea, still, its glued
060127 &#91;11&#58;10&#58;42&#93; <Hangman-> at the torso
060127 &#91;11&#58;12&#58;08&#93; <armadon> why you think what he dont can so fire?
060127 &#91;11&#58;12&#58;18&#93; <armadon> ILF STYLE
060127 &#91;11&#58;12&#58;24&#93; <armadon> fire in torso
060127 &#91;11&#58;12&#58;31&#93; <Hangman-> perhaps he can do that in dm3, if he have a lot of skills
060127 &#91;11&#58;12&#58;34&#93; <Hangman-> but e1m2 is so lol
060127 &#91;11&#58;12&#58;39&#93; <Hangman-> he cant even move!
060127 &#91;11&#58;12&#58;42&#93; <Hangman-> and he aims like that
060127 &#91;11&#58;12&#58;46&#93; <Hangman-> and when he respawna
060127 &#91;11&#58;12&#58;55&#93; <Hangman-> he look ar wery strange angles!
060127 &#91;11&#58;13&#58;52&#93; <armadon> hm
060127 &#91;11&#58;14&#58;45&#93; <armadon> wiat i translate your text &#58;&#41;
060127 &#91;11&#58;14&#58;50&#93; <Hangman-> hm!?
060127 &#91;11&#58;14&#58;50&#93; <Hangman-> &#58;D
060127 &#91;11&#58;14&#58;51&#93; <armadon> bad speak english
060127 &#91;11&#58;14&#58;55&#93; <armadon> &#58;&#41;
060127 &#91;11&#58;14&#58;56&#93; <Hangman-> its ok
060127 &#91;11&#58;15&#58;08&#93; <Hangman-> want me to be clearer?
060127 &#91;11&#58;15&#58;10&#93; <Hangman-> i can translate
060127 &#91;11&#58;15&#58;21&#93; <armadon> how?
060127 &#91;11&#58;15&#58;27&#93; <armadon> you can translate onr ussian?
060127 &#91;11&#58;15&#58;28&#93; <Hangman-> tell me what you dont uderstand
060127 &#91;11&#58;15&#58;34&#93; <Hangman-> a can say it on anoither way
060127 &#91;11&#58;15&#58;35&#93; <armadon> lot
060127 &#91;11&#58;15&#58;37&#93; <Hangman-> i can be clearer
060127 &#91;11&#58;15&#58;47&#93; <armadon> perhaps
060127 &#91;11&#58;15&#58;53&#93; <Hangman-> you under stand respawn?
060127 &#91;11&#58;16&#58;03&#93; <Hangman-> when he is killed
060127 &#91;11&#58;16&#58;03&#93; <armadon> yeah
060127 &#91;11&#58;16&#58;08&#93; <Hangman-> and then he respawns
060127 &#91;11&#58;16&#58;12&#93; <armadon> &#58;&#41;&#41; hang
060127 &#91;11&#58;16&#58;13&#93; <Hangman-> then his crosshair
060127 &#91;11&#58;16&#58;19&#93; <Hangman-> its not looking forwars
060127 &#91;11&#58;16&#58;26&#93; <Hangman-> its not looking normal
060127 &#91;11&#58;16&#58;34&#93; <Hangman-> its looks like to the side
060127 &#91;11&#58;16&#58;40&#93; <Hangman-> sometimes to the top
060127 &#91;11&#58;16&#58;47&#93; <Hangman-> sometimes he looks to the back
060127 &#91;11&#58;16&#58;52&#93; <Hangman-> after he respawns
060127 &#91;11&#58;17&#58;00&#93; <armadon> hm
060127 &#91;11&#58;17&#58;02&#93; <armadon> hahahaha
060127 &#91;11&#58;17&#58;04&#93; <Hangman-> understand?
060127 &#91;11&#58;17&#58;04&#93; <armadon> wiat
060127 &#91;11&#58;17&#58;05&#93; <Hangman-> k
060127 &#91;11&#58;17&#58;27&#93; <armadon> you mean when he spawn he looking in back or top? or up?
060127 &#91;11&#58;17&#58;44&#93; <Hangman-> yea
060127 &#91;11&#58;17&#58;47&#93; <armadon> lol
060127 &#91;11&#58;17&#58;50&#93; <Hangman-> to strange places
060127 &#91;11&#58;17&#58;51&#93; <armadon> look he ping and pl
060127 &#91;11&#58;18&#58;08&#93; <Hangman-> look he ping and pl, and you say 50%sg is normal!?!?!??!
060127 &#91;11&#58;18&#58;09&#93; <armadon> i'm too manymore spawn looks to the back
060127 &#91;11&#58;18&#58;22&#93; <armadon> ILF very good player
060127 &#91;11&#58;18&#58;28&#93; <Hangman-> no
060127 &#91;11&#58;18&#58;30&#93; <Hangman-> he cant move
060127 &#91;11&#58;18&#58;32&#93; <armadon> Very good fires in boomst
060127 &#91;11&#58;18&#58;41&#93; <Hangman-> yea, with cheat!
060127 &#91;11&#58;18&#58;48&#93; <armadon> ye he not cat norml move but can normal fire
060127 &#91;11&#58;18&#58;58&#93; <armadon> cat=can
060127 &#91;11&#58;18&#58;59&#93; <Hangman-> no
060127 &#91;11&#58;19&#58;05&#93; <Hangman-> 50% sg istn normal!!
060127 &#91;11&#58;19&#58;40&#93; <armadon> ok
060127 &#91;11&#58;19&#58;47&#93; <armadon> i cionfused
060127 &#91;11&#58;19&#58;50&#93; <Hangman-> i understand
060127 &#91;11&#58;19&#58;54&#93; <Hangman-> you know him a lot?
060127 &#91;11&#58;19&#58;59&#93; <armadon> when first see Paradkos shaft
060127 &#91;11&#58;20&#58;14&#93; <armadon> but Paradoks too cheatr?
060127 &#91;11&#58;20&#58;20&#93; <Hangman-> no &#58;D
060127 &#91;11&#58;20&#58;26&#93; <Hangman-> he dont have 50%sg
060127 &#91;11&#58;20&#58;27&#93; <armadon> ILF NOT CHEATR
060127 &#91;11&#58;20&#58;37&#93; <armadon> but have 35 lg 100%
060127 &#91;11&#58;20&#58;37&#93; <Hangman-> lol
060127 &#91;11&#58;21&#58;29&#93; <Hangman-> you serious?
060127 &#91;11&#58;21&#58;54&#93; <armadon> Hangman- &#58;
060127 &#91;11&#58;21&#58;57&#93; <Hangman-> yea?
060127 &#91;11&#58;22&#58;14&#93; <armadon> hm
060127 &#91;11&#58;22&#58;39&#93; <armadon> dont knows right words on english what reed
060127 &#91;11&#58;22&#58;50&#93; <Hangman-> hm
060127 &#91;11&#58;22&#58;53&#93; <Hangman-> try?
060127 &#91;11&#58;22&#58;53&#93; <armadon> &#58;&#41;
060127 &#91;11&#58;22&#58;56&#93; <armadon> oki
060127 &#91;11&#58;24&#58;50&#93; <armadon> i mean what ILF first player who can fires that style ... and he not can normal move and normal fires rl but very nice fires boomst and shaft --> manymore trenings on povdmm4 and e1m2 home map Ilf
060127 &#91;11&#58;25&#58;25&#93; <Hangman-> hm, aim is one thing
060127 &#91;11&#58;25&#58;33&#93; <Hangman-> but its glued to the torso
060127 &#91;11&#58;25&#58;40&#93; <armadon> ûåùç
060127 &#91;11&#58;25&#58;42&#93; <armadon> stop
060127 &#91;11&#58;25&#58;46&#93; <Hangman-> the crosshair is EXTREAMELY focused
060127 &#91;11&#58;25&#58;49&#93; <Hangman-> stop?
060127 &#91;11&#58;25&#58;49&#93; <armadon> glued translkate pls
060127 &#91;11&#58;25&#58;52&#93; <Hangman-> hm
060127 &#91;11&#58;25&#58;54&#93; <Hangman-> glue
060127 &#91;11&#58;26&#58;11&#93; <Hangman-> thats what you use to make something get together
060127 &#91;11&#58;26&#58;18&#93; <Hangman-> paper + glue + paper
060127 &#91;11&#58;26&#58;26&#93; <Hangman-> two papers togheter
060127 &#91;11&#58;26&#58;50&#93; <armadon> fff
060127 &#91;11&#58;26&#58;57&#93; <Hangman-> http&#58;//www.rockingham.k12.va.us/sound_sorting/initial_blends/gl/images/glue.jpg
060127 &#91;11&#58;26&#58;58&#93; <armadon> ààà
060127 &#91;11&#58;26&#58;58&#93; <Hangman-> that
060127 &#91;11&#58;27&#58;11&#93; <armadon> understand
060127 &#91;11&#58;27&#58;14&#93; <Hangman-> good
060127 &#91;11&#58;27&#58;15&#93; <armadon> &#58;&#41;
060127 &#91;11&#58;27&#58;18&#93; <Hangman-> you cant aim like the
060127 &#91;11&#58;27&#58;24&#93; <Hangman-> its stucked on the person
060127 &#91;11&#58;27&#58;30&#93; <armadon> on russian Kley
060127 &#91;11&#58;27&#58;33&#93; <Hangman-> aha
060127 &#91;11&#58;27&#58;50&#93; <armadon> he crosshair glue on enemy model .... you that mean?
060127 &#91;11&#58;28&#58;03&#93; <Hangman-> yea, its always on the enemy
060127 &#91;11&#58;28&#58;07&#93; <Hangman-> never moves away
060127 &#91;11&#58;28&#58;13&#93; <Hangman-> he dont move mouse
060127 &#91;11&#58;28&#58;20&#93; <Hangman-> the bot moves for him
060127 &#91;11&#58;28&#58;27&#93; <armadon> hm
060127 &#91;11&#58;28&#58;57&#93; <armadon> you mean what him mouse move bot, not ilf?
060127 &#91;11&#58;29&#58;08&#93; <armadon> when he fire?
060127 &#91;11&#58;29&#58;10&#93; <Hangman-> the bot moves crosshair
060127 &#91;11&#58;29&#58;15&#93; <Hangman-> and he fires
060127 &#91;11&#58;31&#58;00&#93; <armadon> hm
060127 &#91;11&#58;31&#58;15&#93; <armadon> Hangman-
060127 &#91;11&#58;31&#58;17&#93; <Hangman-> m?
060127 &#91;11&#58;31&#58;41&#93; <armadon> on 100 % i not can siad what Ilf not cheatr
060127 &#91;11&#58;31&#58;51&#93; <Hangman-> i understand
060127 &#91;11&#58;32&#58;01&#93; <armadon> but i very very very think he not cheatr
060127 &#91;11&#58;32&#58;12&#93; <Hangman-> i want to think he is not cheater
060127 &#91;11&#58;32&#58;20&#93; <armadon> I"M DONT PLAY WHIT CHEATR IN ONE TEAM &#58;&#40;
060127 &#91;11&#58;32&#58;21&#93; <Hangman-> but i see in demos he is cheater
060127 &#91;11&#58;32&#58;29&#93; <Hangman-> i understand &#58;&#40;
060127 &#91;11&#58;32&#58;35&#93; <Hangman-> he fooled you and all of us
060127 &#91;11&#58;32&#58;43&#93; <armadon> hm
060127 &#91;11&#58;32&#58;58&#93; <Hangman-> you understand?
060127 &#91;11&#58;33&#58;01&#93; <armadon> &#58;&#40; oki wiat to inteviws to Ilf
060127 &#91;11&#58;33&#58;03&#93; <armadon> today
060127 &#91;11&#58;33&#58;07&#93; <Hangman-> yea
060127 &#91;11&#58;33&#58;07&#93; <armadon> and i talk to him
060127 &#91;11&#58;33&#58;12&#93; <Hangman-> you know him irl?
060127 &#91;11&#58;34&#58;20&#93; <armadon> irl?
060127 &#91;11&#58;34&#58;29&#93; <armadon> what is it?
060127 &#91;11&#58;34&#58;29&#93; <Hangman-> in real life
060127 &#91;11&#58;34&#58;40&#93; <armadon> ye
060127 &#91;11&#58;36&#58;22&#93; <Hangman-> ok, sad for you
060127 &#91;11&#58;36&#58;31&#93; <armadon> oki
060127 &#91;11&#58;36&#58;51&#93; <Hangman-> can i post this log on forum?
060127 &#91;11&#58;37&#58;52&#93; <armadon> what for?
060127 &#91;11&#58;38&#58;21&#93; <Hangman-> for people to read?
060127 &#91;11&#58;38&#58;28&#93; <Hangman-> if you say no i dont do it
060127 &#91;11&#58;38&#58;45&#93; <armadon> Oki
060127 &#91;11&#58;38&#58;48&#93; <armadon> you can


its all sad
2006-01-27, 12:43
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Reading that gave me a headache.
2006-01-27, 13:09
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they didnt check f_whatsoever ... but valla made a f_modified all models ok on him
2006-01-27, 13:22
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they didnt check f_whatsoever ... but valla made a f_modified all models ok on him


To be absolutely sure you have to do:

f_version
/validate_clients
f_modified xxxxx

(replace xxxxx with a random number and check that the CRC reply for each client is the same)
2006-01-27, 13:27
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how many clans checking f_whatsoever ? ... it hasnt been a cheater since [E] paradoks cheat client cheapo 2.61 and qwradar 1.1
2006-01-27, 13:33
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lol, he didnt use the qwradar just the cheapo 2.61 which wasnt a cheat on it's own. it was built to answer all f_commands and coverup other cheats but afaik paradoks didnt use any other modifications.. so Mr Guest. Silence. 8)
2006-01-27, 13:33
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We played with ilf @lans noone reocognised him cheating there! So! If u cant aim like him, stop envyin =0) then.
2006-01-27, 13:37
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We played with ilf @lans noone reocognised him cheating there! So! If u cant aim like him, stop envyin =0) then.


No one is saying he's cheated before, or that he cheated on LANs. The simple fact is that he cheated in this EQL game.
2006-01-27, 13:39
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Stop fucking cover for him? What's your problem? All russians in the scene is blind or something? The demos S P E A K S for themself for god sake. Haven't seen anything like this in 5-6 years and it's fucking pathetic.. so ilf, please get lost and never return, ait.
2006-01-27, 13:52
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Well, a good shafter or not he still can't beat nature's given reflexes to us humans.. When I measure the time it takes before the enemy is even visible ( dm3 at 9:28 ) to the time he has started firing shaft is about 3 seconds when the demospeed is slowed down to 0.25 which should give me 1/400 of realtime.
That gives us 3/400=0.0075 s, they say that faster reflexes than 0,1 s is impossible for a humanbeing, I guess that kinda states the fact.


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Hilarious when Znappe (i think) has quad and goes YA->Bridge. Ilf is on stairs/upper bridge with shaft and nails him down in like a millisecond and Znappe goes "wtf?".

It's a very sad thing that cheating goes on and i really hope that there aren't any more players who use those shitty things.


Guys, this is a bad example. ~3 seconds before it happends he might see the quadded enemy at ya, ~1 second before he see the powerupglow thru the wall and the quadded enemy jumps on a grenade. IE he knows for sure that the quadded enemy is there and simply aim at the glow that shines thru the wall. There are much better examples, like ~18:something at e1m2, around ya.


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they didnt check f_whatsoever ... but valla made a f_modified all models ok on him


Quote:

To be absolutely sure you have to do:

f_version
/validate_clients
f_modified xxxxx

(replace xxxxx with a random number and check that the CRC reply for each client is the same)


Now this is the important lesson, f_modified checks for modified models, not hacked clients. Please do the check above before every game, yes there might be some debate the two or three first matches but it's not that hard to start the clients correctly, eventually everyone will learn it.
2006-01-27, 14:00
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Now this is the important lesson, f_modified checks for modified models, not hacked clients.

how many hacked client has it been the last 6years ?.. like 1 or 2?
2006-01-27, 14:06
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Watch the E1M2 demo with demo_setspeed 30% and it's totally obvious from the way his crosshair moves and snaps onto the dead centre of enemy torsoes...

Term: Why did you change my name to "wm" in that quote?
2006-01-27, 14:10
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totally absurde, let's bring this ILF guy up to justice infront of judge Sassa!! :twisted:
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2006-01-28, 17:55
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haha. either this is an aimbot, or it's me faking. and i can't remember faking as ilf, so it must be an aimbot. :twisted:

seriously though, how can anyone even suggest that this isn't an aimbot in action? he is very clever, only turning the aimbot on when he already put the crosshair where the aimbot usally centers it. clever might be the wrong word to use for a guy who's using an aimbot in a 10 year old game. its funny to see him spending cells shooting at nothing, even when the enemy is already spawned (povdmm4 demo). best demo ever.
http://www.aimbot.se/pic/dopefish_anim.gif
2006-01-28, 17:58
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LOOOOL INTER =DDDDD
2006-01-29, 16:06
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LOOK!!! HERE IS SOME MORE BLAH BLAH BLAH

armadon: ny blin koneshno yasno sho ty ne hocesh igrat s chiterom, no demki yasno pokazivaut
2006-01-29, 16:07
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LOOK!!! HERE IS SOME MORE BLAH BLAH BLAH

armadon: ny blin koneshno yasno sho ty ne hocesh igrat s chiterom, no demki yasno pokazivaut
2006-01-29, 16:57
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I would like to see ilf playing e1m2 again after f_modified and another checks.
What about if he still would have 50% sg?
oooOO
2006-01-29, 18:06
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I would like to see ilf playing e1m2 again after f_modified and another checks.
What about if he still would have 50% sg?

Then I'd suggest we vote for him as president of the High QW Council.
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2006-01-30, 10:04
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I think we should give him a chance... If he wants to prove...
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