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2006-06-28, 01:25
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since I've been playin' too much Quake 3 lately, I've decided to play Quake 2 and 1.

Well, not really 2... but more 1 though.

Quake 3 has hitsounds in it and I'm sure we all know what those are. Does anyone know if I could use hitsounds in QuakeWorld as well?

Also, sort of offtopic but wouldn't it be better to use a teal/blue brightskin rather than a white one?
2006-06-28, 08:34
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I don't think hitsounds would fit QuakeWorld that well, since there's no rail and most of the actions is in short distance. The shaft is much more leathal in QW, so you don't need to hear a sound while shafting someone, it's pretty obvious if someone dies or not.

And about the brightskins, it's all up to you what skin you want to use. There's a lot of different skinpacks to download, and you can even make the skins yourself.
2006-06-28, 12:32
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there are allready ouch-sounds from the quake-dudes, listen to those instead
2006-06-28, 13:38
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QuakeWorld doesn't work this way. E.g. If you fire a grenade, run away and an enemy gets hit by it while you are in other room, in Q3 you'll hear the *beep* sound normally. but in QW you'll just hear the 'pain' sound from those distant places.
2006-06-28, 15:47
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or explosion in the grenades case
2006-06-28, 23:07
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The game (or atleast some servers) detect when you hit someone because your weapon stats update. Could this be manipulated to create hitsounds?
2006-06-29, 08:17
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Of course it's possible to create hitsounds in server mods (like ktpro, ktx, etc.).
2006-06-29, 08:24
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But then again, what you be the point?!
If you're shooting at someone, you can see blood spills (depending on the weapon) and hear ouch-sounds.
I don't see the point. It's not like you are going to nail someone from really far distances.
2006-06-29, 09:56
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deurk wrote:
But then again, what you be the point?!
If you're shooting at someone, you can see blood spills (depending on the weapon) and hear ouch-sounds.
I don't see the point. It's not like you are going to nail someone from really far distances.

In the longshots where you really don't know if you hit someone, you still get the hit sound in CPMA and it is as loud as if the distance would've been really short. This would give the attacker a slight edge because he would know if he maybe should go for the kill or not, or at least report "enemy weak".
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2006-06-29, 10:12
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so put it in KTX and try?
2006-06-29, 10:49
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No, because such things are evil and should be BANNED.







But i'll pretend it's not there if you wanna try it.
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2006-06-29, 13:32
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Could be there and toggleable I gues... But I really don't think it's that necessary compared to games like RTCW or ET...
2006-06-29, 14:37
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probably not, but the ability to have it!
2006-06-29, 17:32
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ugh
please stop this discussion, its hurting quakeworld.
2006-06-29, 21:41
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seanos wrote:
ugh
please stop this discussion, its hurting quakeworld.

Why? I know there are other sounds that are made, but I would rather hear a hitsound. I just think it's a really nice feature.
2006-06-29, 22:03
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there are q3 hitsounds in Pro-X the ra3 mod for quakeworld, they work just like in q3
2006-06-29, 22:51
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Zalon wrote:
there are q3 hitsounds in Pro-X the ra3 mod for quakeworld, they work just like in q3

It would be possible to integrate hitsounds in a sourceport though (like ezquake) correct?
2006-07-07, 20:48
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you just need a qwprogs.dat with hitsounds, it is done serverside
2006-07-07, 22:51
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plz....
hitsound + footstep sound = too ez, ruins gameplay
never argue with an idiot. they'll bring you back to their level and then beat you with experience.
2006-07-10, 20:12
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How would it ruin gameplay? There are other noises and effects that are made, I would just prefer a hitsound instead of hearing a pain sound.
2006-07-11, 06:41
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I guess it wouldn't ruin anything since it could be admin toggeable... Why not incorporate new things even if they are not "how-it-should-be-done TM"?
I think little requests like that could be taken into account since the QW community is not that wide compared to other games... and would benefit from positive responses to ideas from new players
2006-07-11, 09:40
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If by hitsound you mean different strenghts of the sound = different amount of damage made, then i'm not too fond of the idea. Always thought it was quite silly in CPMA when you could here that deep beep from your rocket even when you where like 9999999999999m away from your enemy and gave him a full hit. If you just want the painsound different though you are always free to change it in the paks and noone will care. :p
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2006-07-11, 14:05
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deurk wrote:
I guess it wouldn't ruin anything since it could be admin toggeable...

IMO, "broken ankle" ruins gameplay despite being admin toggleable. Hitsound would be another controversial feature to argue about in prewar. No thanks.
2006-07-11, 18:54
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yeah, no hitsounds or broken ankles please
2006-07-11, 22:07
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Bah, that's what keeps QW that far in the played list of games I think... Why would you care if you can set it to 0 :/
Still my favorite game anyway, but I was converted 10 years ago.
2006-07-12, 09:19
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deurk wrote:
Bah, that's what keeps QW that far in the played list of games I think... Why would you care if you can set it to 0 :/
Still my favorite game anyway, but I was converted 10 years ago.

I always thought it was because it is so old and hard to master. Todays games = $$$ graphics and realistic gameplay. Even new shooters like Q4 don't got a very big following.
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2006-07-12, 17:54
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True, but things like BF2 or CS (another old one) still do
2006-07-12, 20:12
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You don't need hitsounds in quake. Remember in q3 the guy can take a gazillion hits to die, in which case hitsounds could be useful. However!!! Even in q3, experienced players know how much damage their doing anyways and probably don't even need them (they are just used to hearing the sound). Especially with the rail! As long as they know it hit, based on the game situation they can estimate the guy's health to a good degree of accuracy, at least accurate enough to plot the next decision correctly.

In quake this estimation is much easier, because you don't have armor ticking down, and players die a lot more often/quickly.

Also that broken angle crap is obviously no good for fps games imo. I like that in fps games I can fly around like superman and fall from great distances without consequence. If I wanted reality i'd stay there : P

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2006-07-13, 07:30
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deurk wrote:
True, but things like BF2 or CS (another old one) still do

And those are "realistic" shooters that are easy to setup, get into and own some people every now and then = newbie friendly.
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2006-07-13, 10:35
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Yeah but if QW was newbie friendly too, it woudl be more played IMO.
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