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2014-12-11, 08:17
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Updatin the post as the current state has changed:

i am working on a cup with the games Warsow, QuakeWorld and Xonotic.
Duel IronMan Cup aka. 3 games 1 cup
They are all free and opensource software.
The matches are going to be Best of 3. Meaning every opponent picks one game and if tiebreaker is necessary it is going to be the 3rd game.
The Map Pool is 2 maps per game.
Is not going to happen before February 2015 as i'm not available in january.

The objectives of this cup are:
    - promote the competetive scene in these 3 games
    - promote dueling as a gametype bigger then a single game
    - promote free and opensource software
    - try to reach players from the whole FPS scene (if not possible, np .. but try: yes)


Things to do:
    agree on a mappool for QuakeWorld. rikoll suggested aerowalk and ztndm3. i like that and if some more agree its decided
    decide one person that is the QW Admin. This person only needs to be there while the cup is running for rules-decisions and questions. Won't be too much work i guess.



Website with Setup-Guides and News is here:
http://ironmanduelcup.wordpress.com/welcome/

(Edited 2014-12-19, 09:45)
2014-12-11, 10:39
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u might wonna make sure the url works
gl
2014-12-11, 13:38
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Update:

We started a poll over at http://strawpoll.me/3166779 to find out which games are desired...


@adrenalin:
yep... thanks! updated
2014-12-11, 15:06
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I'm interested if QW ends up as one of the three games
2014-12-11, 16:12
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Cool idea !
2014-12-11, 16:42
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Thats a nice iniciative!
i would play, but i can't.. :\

Do you need someone of us to help admin the QuakeWorld part? what would be the amount of work envolved?
thanks for remembering qw
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2014-12-11, 21:02
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Nice Feedbakk!!!

yes, it would be good to know who is available from the community to cooperate.
Myself i have close to zero experence in the FPS scene and can't really pull this off. Xonotic people are loving the idea very much.

The current stage of this is pre-alpha

Things i think are necessary from QW:
Maybe an article how to get from nQuake-package to r_drawflat and r_wallcolor and that .
Where to get a good modern HUD, especially as gfx.QW.nu MySQL is down every other day
Which maps are to most accesible ones and standard ones?



Just imagining:
If the Cup would be called "OpenSource World Chamionship" or whateva ... would people be mad about that, as QW-Code is GPL but assets are not?
2014-12-11, 22:11
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I hope you don't mind me asking but; if you have "close to zero experience in the fps scene" then why are you doing this?
www.facebook.com/QuakeWorld
2014-12-12, 07:54
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No dont mind it at all
0: for fun.
1: to achieve Interaction between the small communities that have very similar interests.
2: lessen the identification (dogmatic behaviour) people have with "their" game
3: little bit cause i'm curious which gamer's are the most flexible. "Do QW players adapt better to other games?" this kind of curiosity
4: love for free and opensource games

hf
2014-12-12, 13:12
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any ideas on how to call a wsw/qw/xonotic cup?

just can't find a catchy name for it ...
input pleeeaase
2014-12-12, 13:24
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3 games 1 cup
www.facebook.com/QuakeWorld
2014-12-12, 13:27
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Ake Vader wrote:
3 games 1 cup


Holy shit, I LOL'ed. Almost coffee disaster all over my desk here
2014-12-12, 14:52
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Ake Vader wrote:
3 games 1 cup


hahahah, now it just CAN'T be named any other way
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2014-12-12, 15:36
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and i lol'd back! big laugh at work, everyone stared at me lol
never argue with an idiot. they'll bring you back to their level and then beat you with experience.
2014-12-12, 15:41
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found something when talking with halogene from Xonotic

http://i.imgur.com/2lM8hyE.png

what do you say?

warsow support is not there yet though, but lets see what happens... no rush

(Edited 2014-12-12, 16:05)
2014-12-12, 15:50
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Ake Vader wrote:
3 games 1 cup


nice one yep! read it just after i posted DD
2014-12-12, 16:11
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Ake Vader wrote:
3 games 1 cup


^this, I love it when the first suggestion is the best. btw it's 200% more game, not 300.
2014-12-12, 17:35
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hahaha funy eh no seroiusly whats so funy about it ? HEH
2014-12-12, 20:17
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Adrenalin wrote:
hahaha funy eh no seroiusly whats so funy about it ? HEH


Wikipedia article for '2 Girls 1 Cup'
2014-12-13, 08:41
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whats your prefered number of maps per game?
2 maps per game? that would be 6 in total...

which maps would be good to put from QW, keeping in mind that it would be cool to play accesible maps for strangers dm2 isn't very accesible i'd say even though its amazing

Your choice, QW-Community
2014-12-13, 13:23
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JoeMaro wrote:
whats your prefered number of maps per game?
2 maps per game? that would be 6 in total...

which maps would be good to put from QW, keeping in mind that it would be cool to play accesible maps for strangers dm2 isn't very accesible i'd say even though its amazing

Your choice, QW-Community


At least aerowalk and ztndm3 (blood run) are maps everyone familiar with Q3/QL and probably some of the other games know the layout of. It is also the two maps of TB5 (The Big 5: dm2, dm4, dm6, aerowalk and ztndm3) that plays the best, imo.

But perhaps a BO1 in each game, and each player toss 1 or 2 maps each (depending on map pool size) should grant the most balanced games? Not that balance is perhaps what you're after, but by tossing instead of picking you could perhaps avoid those super rape games by tossing the favorite maps of the player on his "home turf" game.
2014-12-13, 15:17
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good idea on the tossing!

The reaction from both warsow and xonotic community is coming along and it sounds very good. Top duel players from each community are interested and willing to play.
I think what is needed is that one person steps up as an admin for the QW community, to work together with the admins of the other 2 communities.
Mushi was helping me a lot already but said he's a bit busy these days.

As i said before i see myself merely as the initiator and linking person as i dont have any reputation as admin in neither of the communities.

Dont announce this anywhere yet please, we need time to work on it. Let the idea cook until its ready to be served.

Thanks for the attention & have a good day!
2014-12-13, 23:43
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Ake Vader wrote:
3 games 1 cup

haha GOLD!
2014-12-14, 17:23
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Any specific date when the 3 games that are gonna be in this is decided?
2014-12-14, 17:51
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I'd say that the idea is fixed on Quakeworld, Warsow and Xonotic.
They are all free and opensource games and available for winMAClinux.

There is no dates set and no fixed Team. There are people from every community helping me to work on the idea. Today i started to write guides on how to setup the games for competitive play (only enemyskins, picmip, drawflat, simpleitems and HUDlinks are covered).

I have never ever even played a cup (will play first next weekend on warsow). Just want to contribute something because i'm really amazed by the quality of the games we can play for free.

Would like to do this in february as in january i won't be available for a long time.

Feel free to contact me anytime on IRC ... if i'm online i idle on quakeworld warsow xonotic and some more

btw: the top players of any of the games have already announced that they would play ... can get funny but lets take time and patience maybe we can even get q3, UT, reflex players to join as the games are free !!?!

edit: congrats rikoll btw
2014-12-15, 16:42
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i'm currently starting to work on the website.
To make it easy for new people to get into QuakeWorld i want there to be a little to-the-point guide.
here is the page: http://ironmanduelcup.wordpress.com/quakeworld-guide/

If somebody could write like 2 or 3 sentences for the MOVEMENT and the WEAPON section.
Just what is the most important things to know, which weapons are the best, maybe describe weaponstay ...

thanks in advance!

ps: any admin wanting to sign up?
2014-12-23, 21:17
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Rikoll wrote:
I'm interested if QW ends up as one of the three games

Rikoll to win it all!!
2014-12-26, 15:27
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he already started practising and kikked me out of my first cup (which is not too difficult)

HF & tell me your feedback on the QW-Guide if you want.

happy new years and all that!
2015-02-03, 13:35
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i still love the idea but dont have the experience to admin this thing alone
But there is no need to rush ... for now the idea is out here and we'll see what happens!
2015-02-17, 13:11
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I've only just noticed in your guide that you put: 'Mega Health – respawn 30 seconds after the carriers health reaches 100.'

It actually respawns 20 seconds after this situation.
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