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2006-04-25, 22:53
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I don't get why this command is labeled as a cheat in ezquake. I mean, this command does not make it easier to shaft. What originally made the lightning particles in ezquake "cheaty" was that you could see if the shaft was hitting anything or not (and hence determine it's length). This is however a whole different command (gl_lightning_sparks)!

So why ban something that just makes things more attractive?

gl_lightning 1
gl_particle_trail_detail 10
gl_particle_trail_width 3

that makes the lightning look like this:

http://emp.f.nu/ezquake002.png


cheaty? or just better looking?
2006-04-25, 23:51
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Is it possible to make the shaft beam itself less wide? If so, it's definitely a cheat.
Teamplay is nothing. Aim is everything. OBEY YOUR AIM

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2006-04-25, 23:53
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well it's not like it's a straight line, and as far as I know, you can't make it any smaller than on the screenshot

try it out yourself and you'll see
2006-04-26, 01:40
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How can a straight line be cheat, it doesn't make you shaft better.
2006-04-26, 06:55
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true that, and I still vote cl_truelightning 1 allowed!
2006-04-26, 07:35
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why can't i get this lightning beam to work.

I tried the settings above on my config and without a config just default ezquake 1517 settings, it just simply doesn't work any more settings?
2006-04-26, 08:51
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you sure you have the pak0.pak that comes with ezquake?
2006-04-26, 09:15
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yes!


Ok it seemed I had some files in /qw/textures/particles

I removed them now, but can't test atm (@work) hope this will work thx emp!
2006-04-26, 10:38
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murdoc.
remove ruleset.
gl_particle_trail_detail *
gl_particle_trail_width *

use those cmds.
2006-04-26, 11:56
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phrenic wrote:
How can a straight line be cheat, it doesn't make you shaft better.

Of course it could. The less screen space the shaft model occupies, the easier it is to see the enemy. And it's also easier to aim if the model is straight, if you (like me) aim shaft without crosshair.
Teamplay is nothing. Aim is everything. OBEY YOUR AIM

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2006-04-26, 12:06
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Empezar wrote:
So why ban something that just makes things more attractive?

Put -particles 0 in the cmdline, and voila, the shaft disappears completely (and you could just make a crosshair which bottom line extends down the screen, thus giving you a straight shaft). I think that's why it was banned, though could have been made that it doesn't effect the shaft, but it would kinda defeat the purpose of -particles.
2006-04-26, 12:11
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ui - Of course it could. The less screen space the shaft model occupies, the easier it is to see the enemy. And it's also easier to aim if the model is straight, if you (like me) aim shaft without crosshair.

Less screen space? if you already play in 1600x1200 - with conheight 1024 conwidth 768.. wouldn't make that diffrence. And i've tried it, didn't see any diffrence in povdmm4 on the lightning percent.

Prove me wrong.
2006-04-26, 12:14
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phrenic i tried that but it didn't work still had the old lg beam, but i think its gonna work now, with the right particles

Just have to wait till i get home
2006-04-26, 12:18
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then make gl_lightning not work with -particles <X where X is the amount of particles needed to display the shaft beam
2006-04-26, 18:11
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I want to be able to use gl_lightning 1. I like to play for fun with as high graphics as possible
2006-04-28, 16:32
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I wonder why r_lgbloodcolor exists...
2006-04-29, 08:28
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all cheat, ban ezquake and GL.
2006-04-29, 12:59
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mr software speaks up, the man also known for a gif where he rjs from ra entrance to ra high...
BAN SW and everything raket is using instead
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