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2011-07-30, 11:36
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dm2 dm3 dm4 dm6 ultrav castle ztndm3 dark-terror-ffa ztndm4 head-shot pkeg1 cmt4 e1m2 e1m5 e4m3 aerowalk e3m1 skull dark-storm-ffa hook schloss a2 rwild spinev2 efdm8

As you can see it's mostly small maps, what I believe the least popular maps are DM3, E1M2, E3M1, A2 and SPINEV2. I'll add those new maps soon, though I'll keep forgetting their names.
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2011-07-30, 12:01
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The new 4on4 maps? ctl5.bsp, ctl6.bsp, doomed.bsp and naughty.bsp are all somewhat new
2011-07-30, 12:12
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Agree with the post above.
Plus:

- q3dm14 by anni should also be there (when finished).
- cmt2.bsp seems small and nice for ffa
- Twierdza.bps (hot stuff!)
2011-07-30, 12:22
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spinev2 and a2 least popular? i dont think so
the maps which really suck are made by tiddles (except castle)
2011-07-30, 12:31
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I like Tiddles' maps, especially dark-storm-ffa.bsp and head-shot.bsp. Afaik E4M3 is usually skipped. Spinev2 seems to be popular, it tends to be crowded. DM3 is somewhat unpopular, partly because of the discharging and partly because some players are -way- ahead of others here (of course). A2 has a lot of spawnfrags, but hey, so does DM4.
2011-07-30, 17:41
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Don't think it is worth having dm3 there - 4on4 scene is so much distant from newbies, you need MUCH more to learn than just play this map a little in FFA. I think it is not worth the effort, even tho I appreciate the idea.
2011-07-30, 18:43
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you want to add my ctl5 and 6 to that list ?

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ctl6 is now final and released
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2011-07-30, 19:18
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Can you give me a link of the new finished maps.

The Tiddles maps are pretty popular afaik.

I'll ponder a bit more over dm3/e1m2 as it might be so indeed (from rookie to 4on4)
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2011-07-30, 20:09
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http://upload.foppa.dk/files/twierdza.bsp

http://upload.foppa.dk/files/ctl6.bsp

http://upload.foppa.dk/files/ctl5.bsp
2011-07-30, 21:23
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My advice:

-Use maps that are played in tournaments as it helps to promote knowledge. So dm2/3/4/6 and e1m2 are good for players that are learning the game, and also custom maps that are to be used in leagues (no idea about EQL, still waiting for past 4 months to hear the map pool) are good, cmt1b/3/4 would be nice to include.
-SpineV2 is not unpopular. A2 isn't either HOWEVER it gets get a bit lame with >10 players, too much spam and quad lg.
-Dark-storm-ffa does not strike me as a good map. Pent room has RA and health packs and no spawn points so is easily defendable, you often get some guy camping up there. The general architecture feels a bit awkward too.
-Skull doesn't make a good ffa map IMO, probably fine for duel though which is what it was built for
-Hook is just terrible, the only 'good' thing it has going for it is the somewhat unusual architecture, a bit more vertical than most maps
-e4m3 is the best episode map for FFA (5 quads, 4 rings, 2x rl, 2xlg, what's not to like? Well other than the fact there's only 4 spawns, lol).
-ztndm6 and punish would make nice additions
2011-07-30, 22:29
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remove rwild and ultrav
2011-07-30, 23:06
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Pkeg also seems awful to me. Quite annoying.
2011-07-31, 00:47
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get rid of dm2 and dm4

trollolol i'm being constructive!!


seriously though.
2011-07-31, 01:00
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pkeg is the most awesome small map there is
Ultra action.

Btw I think with those size maps even 12 players is too much.. 8-10 is max imo. and with a round robin system its better with lower max limit so the 2nd server actually will get filled up also.
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2011-07-31, 01:00
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btw here are some suggestions for maps:

alltex* all textures displayed on cubes.
rgb_red_beta2 really nice
ikspq4 really nice
qdm14b1 great remake of a q3 map
gencldm9 nice ffa
lilith nice
gomdm2v2 really nice small map
rapture2 really nice small map
pope7 really nice small map
wdm4 nice small map
chapter-necros beautiful map
pope3 really nice small map
dmanse nice ffa
skis3 could be nice big ffa
ritual nice ffa
sthdm2 fun little 1on1
bweat nice big arena
swtdie nice ffa
fribwedb1 nice 1on1/2on2 map
trindm2 nice little ffa
cy2 nice open ffa
plpak13 nice small map
revival really nice map (where are the items?)
xl1dm6 nice compact ffa
ch1sp1 nice singleplayer map
kikdm6 really nice map (4on4?)
twindrgn author: scott mcnutt
auhdm1 real nice ffa
coagula2 nice small map
misdm5 nice small map
damaul2 nice 4on4 map
rcdm5 nice small map
rayxpo4 pro-x/arena
qubixdm2 nice small 2on2 map
fpp really nice small 1on1/aim map?
rip nice small map
reinc4 nice medium map
mmra6 beautiful arena/aim map
mars1 singleplayer
rcdm7 really nice medium ffa
bovine nice medium ffa
evildead funky forest map
q1q3test2 nice quake3 remake of the longest yard
damaul4 nice small map
qtdm2_ca4 really nice medium map
exdm4 nice medium map
rich_bar really lol quake-bar map
int small ffa
way2ez trick
escape2 singleplayer (level2)
unde ra/aim
dmtest1 garbage / testmap
del1 nice small map
qp11 garbage
hcdm1 nice small/medium map
cleaver nice medium ffa
brstat garbage
rpgdm1 nice medium map
ruins nice mediumbig ffa
addict nice medium ffa
pabc9 garbage
ph8dm2 nice medium ffa
lop2 trick?
vote40 garbage
eodm3 beautiful map medium ffa/4on4?
shaft garbage
veldrin1 nice medium ffa
kmb nice small ffa
xntrick REALLY nice medium ffa (halloween theme)
shrine_noisy q3 remake
pat1 garbage
bsdm8 nice medium big ffa
mgdm1b nice small ffa
amphi2 aim map
dbtd_se garbage
wilburdm2 small ffa
majic garbage
eternal5 nice mdeium ffa
xdm4 nice remake of dm4
gib1 garbage
tibet nice small/medium ffa
plpak10 nice small map
domdm3 nice small map
tiny nice small ffa
sgodrune garbage?
junkie nice small ffa
alkdm02 nice small ffa
bowl garbage or trick?
punish coudl be nice?
cpm3-2v2 nice 1on1/2on2
tridm1 nice 1on1
rtz nice small ffa
dmarena3 nice small ffa
strafin6 nice small ffa
nowhere nice medium/small ffa
rapture really nice castle ffa
bsdm7 very nice castle ffa
naughty nice ffa/4on4
naked5 nice ffa/4on4
gallery garbage
safe3b2 nice small ffa
b1m7 great remake of e1m7
north fun small winther theme map
gdm1 nice small map
kdmv nice small free-air map
evdm1 nice small free-air map
soyarena duplicate?
updown2 could be nice small ffa
plpak4 nice small ffa
swk nice small medium
cagi nice medium small ffa
sanity nice small ffa
lavabass nice medium ffa
ravage nice small ffa
elder really ˝nice map
e1m2ish nice e1m2 version
carddm2 really nice small/medium ffa
foberdm1 garbage
ariadat beautiful sp map
zxcdm1 really nice small map
ctest1 nice small map
dark garbage
dspra1 looks like really nice arena map, is it dm?
rfactory nice small ffa
efdm10 nice small ffa
mmra6a duplicate? seen this before
tecskill garbage
trallefinal2 nice small map
efdm13 nice medium/large
baldm8 nice small/medium
localh garbage
mcore nice small
rf nice small
3egreenbeta nice small/medium
grim nice 4on4/big ffa
pain-giver nice small ffa
vdm3v2 nice medium ffa
spirit1t3 nice medium ffa
dapak3 nice small ffa
bel1a duplicate?
cam07 duplicate?
safe1 really nice small map
kekekeke garbage
tsd nice small map
boostjumpa duplicate?
unddm2 nice small ffa
fsdm1 nice small ffa
slipcomp garbage
corn2 garbage
cloistr3 nice medium map
oma nice medium map
effigy great medium map
safe3b3 nice medium map
xl1dm5 nice medium map
shine nice small map
impdm2 nice medium map
slag nice small map
efdm1 nice medium map
3eredbeta nice small map
3egreybeta nice small
midcit nice 4on4?
lundm1 nice small ffa
vendm1 nice small/medium
yoom nice medium
admds nice medium
four nice small ffa
erkle9 garbage
tr2 trick
testmapb garbage
omf2 nice small
qfflxmas nice large ffa
rpdm7 nice 4on4
ukcl4 nice 4on4
plpak7 nice medium/large ffa
spd nice small ffa
pdm2 nice small ffa
escape trick
rmtomb04 duplicate?
oktest1 nice medium
imp1dm1 nice small
mjdm1pro nice small
pinion2 nice small/medium ffa
kjsp1 beautiful sp map
madness nice small map
dapak12 ztn clone?
dm2ish nice medium ffa
alko8dm nice medium/large
rcdm8 nice small ffa/2on2
karagee nice medium map
alkdm04 really nice small ffa
nihilore beautiful sp
goods nice medium ffa
wilburdm3 nice medium
damaul71 really nice medium map
nindm3v2 nice medium
north_b nice small
efdm4 nice medium/large
saggetest3 nice small
ant sick nice sp
rpdm8 nice medium/large
ssj trick
balcc nice medium
x-pulse3 nice small/medium
baldm4 nice medium
xl1dm1 nice small/medium
tridm2 nice small
omdm1 really nice medium/large
pope6 nice medium
dspdm3 nice medium
exdm3 nice medium
sm84_pope nice small
rampage-tid nice small
tridm3 nice small
rcdm2 nice small
carddm1 nice medium
noentry dmm4
vici_qw nice medium/large/4on4?
pli really nice medium
p3a really nice small/medium˝
electra14 nice small
paprika nice medium
aghast nice medium
exdm2 really nice medium
rapdm3 nice medium
dokkur4 nice medium/large
vendm2 nice medium
kdmz nice medium
apleasure nice small/medium
kikdm5 nice small
ravage2 nice medium
pbrdm1 nice medium
haunting beautiful large sp
sm nice ˝medium
klzvob nice medium
pope4 nice medium
misdm8 nice medium
head-shot nice medium
leaks nice medium
efdm5 nice small
nihilore2 nice medium
pinion3 nice medium
dapak8 nice small medium
pdm1 nice small
dspdm6 nice medium
lair_b9e nice medium
pelasdm2 nice medium
misdm11a nice small
gomdm6 nice small medium
lady nice small medium
plpak1 nice small
kjdm13 nice medium large
pdm12 nice small medium
bsp nice medium large
rgb_blue_beta2 nice small
jqdf3 trick?
plpak8 nice large
reneq1 nice medium
oqffldm4 nice large
dapak6 nice medium large
kikdm3 nice medium
nduel nice small
fsdm2 nice medium
noc1 nice small
reinc2 nice big
cpm3 nice medium
dranzdm7 nice medium
rewired1 nice small
rjed trick
rjart3vfr trick
concjump trick
rckthell trick
scoutin trick
rjextb01 trick
catz trick
soldier3 trick
jump4 trick
povhop02 trick
sprjfr trick
nanotf1 trick
rjump2 trick
rjump1 trick
rjxtreme trick
rjart2fb trick
rj4fun trick
rjart2vf trick
pipejmp trick
xl1 nice small
rjartb01 trick
nano2 trick
engineer trick
rcktjump2re trick
povmed1 trick
pjump6 trick
scout trick
xnkspeed02 trick
rjdelite trick
cfree1b2 trick (dupe)
factory2 nice small medium
soldemo2 trick
rjextb02 trick
madhops trick
rcktpro trick
scout2 trick
rcktjump2 trick
icebowl nice small
train1 trick
lavaduel nice small
jumptst2 trick
advjumpvb3 trick
demojmp2 trick
pk14 nice small
rcktpro2b6 trick
sthdm2a nice small
dpdm2 bloodfest
dad nice small/medium
ready!
2011-07-31, 15:30
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my favourite big maps: A2, spinev2, castle, efdm8, cmt4, dark-storm, fav small maps: pkeg1!!!, schloss. Ofc i like all official maps, but with 4-6 players. I hate ultrav mostly, its a camper-spammer shithole, no hp you can get there. Skull is a good duel map, but dont like in ffa too. Cmt1b, cmt3 could be a good ffa map, thats where they belongs to BTW thx for running this great server Flepser, and Bigfoot(still banned?.... shame that they banned the most popular ffa server's admin for personal reasons...). I think a vote would be a great help to Flepser, so he can easier find out what maps the community want to play in ffa. Offtopic: there is a fag who use aimbot and plays a lot on x4ffa lately, pls ban him, and pls do something with hater spammers like Cuntor or (untor, i think he belongs to world of warcraft, not qw
2011-08-02, 17:17
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JohnNy_cz wrote:
Don't think it is worth having dm3 there - 4on4 scene is so much distant from newbies, you need MUCH more to learn than just play this map a little in FFA. I think it is not worth the effort, even tho I appreciate the idea.

'newbies' .... I dont' think that's the case. There are simply people who like FFA and simply don't have an interest in team games, incl. myself. I've been playing qw again, on and off, since 2005/2006 and I also played Q1 back in 96/97 until...who knows. I'm certainly not new to Quake. But basicly, I like to be able to play INSTANTLY whenever I feel like it. This is usually possible in FFA, but not in 4on4. I've specced 4on4 sometimes to see what it is about and it takes ages to get 8 ppl into a game and then get them all to press ready. I could surely take a dump in that time.
On top of that, a lot of those guys that play 4on4 are the die-hards and gear-freaks that go through absolutely ridiculous efforts to have the very best settings they can possibly get and therefore crazy advantages over people who don't do that. In FFA u got a more fair mix of people, with some exceptions (when those div0's come to xs4all ffa 'cause they can't get a 4on4 game starting). On top of that (I can keep on going forever really) I also don't like to read thousands of team-msg's when I'm playing (like they have in 4on4). In fact, I turn OFF msg's completely in FFA.

Currently, I'm not playing QW (although until recently I was), so I don't care about any map decisions (which always happen just when I'm comfortable with the current pool btw), but this idea of people being 'newbie' just because they don't play 4on4 is really getting old. You just can't blame people for just wanting to play ffa. And it's true: DM3 on a full ffa server is no fun because of those discharges, as has been stated.

Oh and a2 and spinev2 ARE popular maps. And have always been in ffa.



{edited a bit to sound less harsh here and there.... and I don't read Hustler...so......}
2011-08-02, 17:26
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I think the point is that many new players have xs4all as the entry point to QW and gets too trashed on dm3 that its not even worth keeping the map in the rotation even if the intention is to make new players learn the classic maps of quake.
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2011-08-02, 20:44
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They'll get even more trashed if they try to learn it in 4on4 (dmm1) though.
I learnt to play dm3 on ffa servers (Barrysworld rotation was dm2-dm3-ukcldm2-e4m3-ztndm3, can't remember exact order).
2011-08-02, 21:12
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Ake Vader wrote:
I think the point is that many new players have xs4all as the entry point to QW and gets too trashed on dm3 that its not even worth keeping the map in the rotation even if the intention is to make new players learn the classic maps of quake.

But they get thrashed on xs4all ffa anyway. I am bad in timing quad, usually, 'cause I'm often tired when I play QW. But even then, new players or high pingers get thrashed anyway, by myself and others. On all maps. That's why I always recommend them to at least be able to deal with a full server of Frogbots lvl5 FFA (yes that sounds funny), and then move it up to lvl 10. After that, you can have much more fun on xs4all ffa as well.

But... a bit of a problem, still, is new players from STEAM. They don't know anything because there's, apparently, not much info in that community. They don't know that there's difference between Quake and QW and often try xs4all FFA with their DarkPlaces client, which has been thrown into the Quake folder on their drives. So they don't keep Quake separate from QW. So I always have explain everything and it's getting tedious. I'm not part of the Steam community although I think I do have a username, but there should be a sticky post there. I just tried to log in at Steam, but I get the message 'Please verify your humanity by re-entering the characters below.'............ But I don't see any characters. I'm not gonna sign up again since I never use Steam anyway.
Just a post including a written re-direction to this website is all that is needed really...

[edit]OK, I see there's a lot of info in that topic already. But it's not stressed enough to keep Netquake and QW separate[/edit]
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2011-08-02, 21:55
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Some people hate quad, Why not enable quad after a certain amount of players?

I have this on my server and it works perfectly.
2011-08-02, 21:57
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d4rin wrote:
Some people hate quad, Why not enable quad after a certain amount of players?

I have this on my server and it works perfectly.

Yes, they had that on the Elvis FFA server too.
2011-08-03, 01:54
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d4rin wrote:
Some people hate quad, Why not enable quad after a certain amount of players?

I have this on my server and it works perfectly.

Some people love quad, why not let them hug it whenever they want?

If you hate quad, go kill the Quadrunner.
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2011-08-05, 18:24
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FLEPSTER! Zaka published the Final version of Naughty! W e need to get it to XS4ALL! -> http://www.quakeworld.nu/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=63492#p63492
2011-08-05, 18:26
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FlePser wrote:
d4rin wrote:
Some people hate quad, Why not enable quad after a certain amount of players?

I have this on my server and it works perfectly.

Some people love quad, why not let them hug it whenever they want?

If you hate quad, go kill the Quadrunner.

Yeah I know what you mean...I'd rather leave it on all the time but too many people complain and leave.

Looks like I need to regulate it...
2011-08-05, 19:12
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IMO the main goal should be not to chase off any of the real regulars. It's all nice and good to have many suggestions what might improve the map rotation and the fun of oneself, but it's not really helpful to have an improved ffa server in theory, with many of the old regulars not joining and the initiators of the changes not playing regularly.

In my opinion, you are trying to achieve so many different things that probably aren't to satisfy "everyone" because that simply is impossible. In German, we have word for that; the "Eierlegendewollmilchsau" is that:

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/9594/wollmilchsau.jpg
2011-08-06, 15:42
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Add ctl5,ctl6,naughty2,doomed

Remove: hook,e1m2,dm3

@andy: nice pic
2011-08-07, 12:38
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cloned wrote:
Add ctl5,ctl6,naughty2,doomed

Remove: hook,e1m2,dm3

@andy: nice pic

Hook is one of the best maps there.
2011-08-07, 12:51
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hook is so immensly bad i lack the words to describe it. Together with ultarv.
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2011-08-07, 23:21
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I play a lot of ffa and i think the most popular maps are:

pkeg1
ztndm3
spinev2
aerowalk
a2
hook
ultrav
castle
skull
dark-terror-ffa

Might have left one out but these maps all have that fun "die every 5 seconds" action and there aren't as many /quits. The other maps could be rotated more often imo.
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