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2006-04-17, 00:59
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!phil can u remove my demo as i didnt have some settings enabled ie lg_pref
2006-04-17, 01:18
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ok, thanks for fact-checking the demos, i will look into it and post dqs if they didnt follow rules

also, i am moving tourney site to http://lgc.quakeworld.nu

so now brazilians should be able to access it
2006-04-17, 02:34
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Jon49 wrote:
Remove s1k's demo. There's no way he has lg_pref enabled , and it's 4 or 5 minutes long

although i guess its a joke ive checked the demo again and lg_pref was enabled - ofc 3minutes long
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if you really think lg_pref was not enabled then watch that the enemy is only firing rockets when i do
not hit him either or shortly after he fired or shortly before - shaftdistance
2006-04-17, 03:24
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yeah i checked s1k's demo it looks fine... the only problem is you did not use the LGC zip..

i am not going to dq you, but in the future please use the lgc.zip (you can download it from "instructions"
2006-04-17, 04:58
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s1k wrote:
Jon49 wrote:
Remove s1k's demo. There's no way he has lg_pref enabled , and it's 4 or 5 minutes long

although i guess its a joke ive checked the demo again and lg_pref was enabled - ofc 3minutes long
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if you really think lg_pref was not enabled then watch that the enemy is only firing rockets when i do
not hit him either or shortly after he fired or shortly before - shaftdistance

Eh , I guess I'm wrong then. Are you using an earlier version of the bot? It's aim and movement seem alot cruddier in comparison to the bots from everyone elses demos. Or maybe I'm just imagining things Anyway , good job on only allowing it to get 75 frags.

Btw , is ezQuake allowed?
2006-04-17, 06:39
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what is the reason for allowing only fuh quake client?
2006-04-17, 07:39
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Some ppl like s1k and react used old fbca. I think !phil must delete these demos. Becourse with old fbca there are much easy to get more frags cos bot can't get as much frags as new one. Use lgc.zip plz.
With best wishes, B1aze.
2006-04-17, 12:01
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Fair call blaze. Remove my demo plz !phil.
2006-04-17, 12:21
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phil: please comment on the questions that have been asked -

1) will you apply vb's quakec patch to make the lg knockback equivalent to qw? link

2) can ezquake be added as permitted client?
2006-04-17, 13:23
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Unless someone voices a very strong argument against it, ezQuake is allowed.

I will update the rules to reflect this change later. Sorry for any inconvenience about that.

As for the patch: I have read about it and would love to use it. However, I don't have the sources.. is it a straight patch to qwprogs.dat ? because thats all I have from parboil.

If someone can supply me the actual patch sources, I might be able to get parboil to implement them.

Also, I think react used the correct bot. I might be mistaken. I'll look into the demo later.
2006-04-17, 15:44
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!phil the source for fbca101kt are here http://parboil.quakeworld.ru/parboil/src101.zip as for patch just replace * 11 by * 8 in combat.qc and recompile with meqcc (http://parboil.quakeworld.ru/parboil/meqcc.zip). i'm right?
2006-04-18, 02:52
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!phil please remove my demo as i did not have the correct settings , email me if u want to discuss further.
2006-04-18, 15:41
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abaddon: thanks. I will implement this, but this will invalidate all the demos. So I will probably start a new season (with new leaders!) next week.
2006-04-18, 15:43
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what is the version of ezquake that everyone is using?
2006-04-18, 16:25
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i use 1318.
last official i think.
With best wishes, B1aze.
2006-04-18, 17:04
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I too can't get demos uploaded with Opera browser. It just says "uploading" but nothing actually happens.
2006-04-18, 21:14
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So do not use opera browser!!!! Use firefox or msie.

Wow, why are so many people using opera?
2006-04-18, 21:16
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See http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=113354

Summary: its a bug in opera.

Try to download opera build 8333 or higher:
http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/
http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/o90w_8371.exe

(I calculate LG% and damage for you, I save your demos, and now I can't believe I even have to google for you people!!!)
2006-04-18, 21:22
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P.S. there are some problems with .qwz demos. I will fix them later. (Thats why witkas and ilfs demos are not there ... and ilf better not be botting this time HEHE)
2006-04-18, 21:58
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I use Opera because it is the best browser for me (I will never use IE). Uploaded my demos with firefox though.

And yes, ilf is botting this time too. Now he has just introduced random movement in aim but it is still a bot.
2006-04-18, 22:29
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I am redoing some of the code in the lgc qwprogs.dat to combat certain kinds of cheats (not just aimbots). It will also include the LG knockback patch.

It will be online later this week, with a new 'season': new leader board and if you want to be in the new season, you will have to re-do your demo with the new lgc
2006-04-18, 23:20
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excellent job!
2006-04-18, 23:29
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hehe that ilf demo was just so obvious
2006-04-19, 12:23
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why is ilf at 3rd place in the compo? gathered from your comments he cheated again?

erm. just read phils comment on redoing the tourney..
2006-04-20, 01:03
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i finally got around to reviewing ilfs demo and yeah hes cheating http://lgc.quakeworld.nu/?a=user&u=ilf
2006-04-20, 01:24
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Yeah, I patched the qwprogs.dat for using lg knockback with multiplier 8 instead of 11. Now it feels much more like QW.

What will happen to people playing lgc?

First, dfrags and lg% will increase since it's easier to aim/move when being hit (ie. you are not pushed away from enemy so the effective range is much easier to keep)

Second, you can say bye bye for getting bot air behind the camp-bar(s), pushback is nowhere near enough to get those any more.

Third, it will be easier frag bot in the air since it won't be getting lots of speed to maneuver and run away from your aim (midair).


So, the overall feeling of qw is now restored and it really feels like you're playing against really bad moving player that has aimbot

I won't be sending any more demos now since I have that qwprogs.dat modified, so no worries about me cheating. I'll be waiting for that "official" release.
2006-04-20, 07:05
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!phil wrote:
i finally got around to reviewing ilfs demo and yeah hes cheating http://lgc.quakeworld.nu/?a=user&u=ilf

!phil
ilf did not cheat.
plz, give an instruction what do he has to do that your accept his result?

it is very strange to blame 35 years old man with cheating, is not it?

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here is a few demos from my last povs with him(week ago). He is a normal man with a good lg.
http://cmdclan.newmail.ru/files/ilf/
2006-04-20, 07:26
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witka, jolki-palki!

what's wrong with these people?
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/06/bypa/ptw/asamoah_l.jpg
2006-04-20, 07:41
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Hey I'm 24, I must be cheating! .....
2006-04-20, 11:09
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witka wrote:
plz, give an instruction what do he has to do that your accept his result?

1. stop using an aimbot

that's it really..
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