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2009-10-09, 23:16
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i move around a lot renzo; work, parents, my own place(s) all in different cities
sry if it is confusing
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2009-10-09, 23:19
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I don't actually care (I have posted from over 220 IPs it seems), I just stated that ip-addresses can be followed even on something as shitty as PunBB. Your user was next to Marvel's so it was easy to "just check" how it works, or if it does at all.
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2009-10-09, 23:43
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Renzo wrote:
Clever boy. Are you actually trying to suggest that people should actually do it?

I'm tempted to avoid cmt3.




j/k.
2009-10-10, 00:36
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Presumably the admins can see who voted for what and can audit the poll after completion to weed out anyone fishy.

As to the poll being flawed, well, it is, but it still provides all necessary data and it can be dissected to see the two most popular maps afterwards.
2009-10-10, 01:11
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my opinion goes:
cmt1b, cmt2 and midcit are unknown to me, even though they look pretty good
cmt3 it's all there is, love its quad
cmt4 it's beautiful, even though I don't like the underwater RA
e2m2 it's pretty cool and I would love to see it being played

I voted cmt3 and cmt4 just for being better known by the community...
2009-10-12, 11:15
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where can i download all theses maps?
2009-10-12, 14:38
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just join a server and download from there
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2009-10-12, 17:12
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I don't like this poll. Prefer TB3!!!
MAGNUM 44
2009-10-12, 18:33
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SamoN wrote:
I don't like this poll. Prefer TB3!!!

You should have been here for the first poll then.
2009-10-13, 11:29
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e2m2 + cmt3

Why not 2 polls?
1. 1st map (all maps)
Then:
2. 2nd map (all maps except win in 1st tour)

Or ideal polls: 3 polls "worst map" - each poll remove one map from list.
2009-10-13, 11:51
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I think they haven't got time enought, and parcipitacion will be different for each poll
"the quieter you become, the more you are able to hear"
2009-10-13, 13:32
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Cmt1b + Cmt4 ftw! Just because they're lots of fun. :>
Str8 Outta Ritoniemi!
2009-10-19, 14:00
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Willgurht wrote:
should have been a multi option poll. Now alternatives like e2m2-midcit takes votes from the options that are likely to win.

You can simply convert from one format to another.

Current votes:

e2m2 4 8 4 8 24
cmt1b 4 27 10 6 47
cmt3 8 27 20 6 61
cmt4 4 10 20 2 36
midcit 8 6 6 2 22

Last colomn is sum of votes per map.
As you see, the leader is cmt3(61 votes) and cmt1b(47votes).
With best wishes, B1aze.
2009-10-23, 07:50
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cmt1b is a really good map. I voted for it and cmt4 because its well known.
2009-10-24, 13:27
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I suspect cheat here, it can't be for real that 28 persons voted for this rediculous "cmt1b+cmt3. Atleast Milton is happy for it. I'm not.
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2009-10-24, 13:48
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bps wrote:
I suspect cheat here, it can't be for real that 28 persons voted for this rediculous "cmt1b+cmt3. Atleast Milton is happy for it. I'm not.

Agree, can't believe that cmt4 was replaced by that cmt1b crap!
MAGNUM 44
2009-10-24, 14:10
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bps wrote:
I suspect cheat here, it can't be for real that 28 persons voted for this rediculous "cmt1b+cmt3. Atleast Milton is happy for it. I'm not.

Agreed, if custom maps have to be included in all divisions of EQL at least make it CMT3/CMT4 that at least brings something original to the gameplay, CMT1B is such a second rate version of DM3 that it's not even funny, horrible map.
2009-10-24, 14:20
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You won't convince too many people by only using words like "rediculous (!), crap, horrible" without any further explanation why you think those maps are not good.
2009-10-24, 14:26
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Having 10% of the EQL participants (you don't even have to be participating to vote, gg?) deciding the map pool is fucking useless.

Allow each registered clan to give one vote, i'm pretty sure that the majority in div1 doesn't want to play kenya.
2009-10-24, 14:41
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JohnNy_cz wrote:
You won't convince too many people by only using words like "rediculous (!), crap, horrible" without any further explanation why you think those maps are not good.

I wasn't really trying to convince anyone with my post, it was more stating my opinion on the current mappool.

People complain about the lack of variety in constantly playing the same 3 maps, that is THREE MAPS that offer DIFFERENT gameplay

What do we get? CMT1b, a map pretty similar to dm3 which BTW has the exact same item placement and items in general as both CMT3 and DM3. You call that variety?

Besides there is a serious lack of demos available for maps like CMT1b, apart from a newer mix game there really isnt much games available with top players on maps like cmt1b. All I could find was some playoff games dated 2003 on CMT1b, and those games were the most boring ffa I've ever witnessed. But if that's what the majority wants then fine.
2009-10-24, 15:51
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JohnNy_cz wrote:
You won't convince too many people by only using words like "rediculous (!), crap, horrible" without any further explanation why you think those maps are not good.

Why is it so necessary to explain why it suck? It's a bad map, as simple as that.
I'm also for CMT3+CMT4 if having a map-pool of five is THAT important, cmt3+4 you've at least seen before.. In any case, big div1 games being decided by some non-tb3 map sucks in general.

Also, the map pool being decided by a public forum vote is a joke itself - shouldn't the majority of the players that are actually participating in a tournament have a say on what maps to be included?
2009-10-24, 15:54
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XantoM wrote:
Having 10% of the EQL participants (you don't even have to be participating to vote, gg?) deciding the map pool is fucking useless.

Allow each registered clan to give one vote, i'm pretty sure that the majority in div1 doesn't want to play kenya.

This is good idea to allow participating teams to vote about mappool for the eql10. As you can see top div1 players don't want to play cmt1b in the upcomming eql.

I suggest to give 1 vote to each team and we'll see how it looks.
Suggested options:
1. tb3
2. tb3+cmt3+cmt4
3. tb3+cmt3+cmt1b

What do you think?
MAGNUM 44
2009-10-24, 16:14
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I think now it's too late
"the quieter you become, the more you are able to hear"
2009-10-25, 10:18
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It's never to late...
MAGNUM 44
2009-10-25, 12:57
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valla wrote:
Besides there is a serious lack of demos available for maps like CMT1b, apart from a newer mix game there really isnt much games available with top players on maps like cmt1b.

here's a random selection (non-mix) of games from last 10 days. among others: -da- vs 44, -da- vs dc, .b. vs -fu-, .b. vs a2k, f vs tks, r. vs tks, tks vs dc
link

we all should get off our lazy asses and allow something new into the game, yes?
2009-10-25, 13:18
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there will be many giggles when the div3 demos look better than the div1 ones, you fucking eejits, the bunch of you ;p
2009-10-25, 13:37
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XantoM wrote:
Having 10% of the EQL participants (you don't even have to be participating to vote, gg?) deciding the map pool is fucking useless.

Allow each registered clan to give one vote, i'm pretty sure that the majority in div1 doesn't want to play kenya.

but if the minority is a group that YOU fall under, then the minority can decide something like this just fine right?

good one.
2009-10-25, 14:16
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Are you retarded? It can't get more fair then letting each registered clan give a vote.
2009-10-25, 14:26
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XantoM wrote:
Are you retarded? It can't get more fair then letting each registered clan give a vote.

Actually, it can get a hell of a lot fairer than that. let each player have a vote.

If you give 1 vote per clan, you get conservative votes. For every Milton in each clan, there's a Xantom. When it comes to a shared vote, the conservatives shout louder, as history has shown in previous EQL polls which were based on 1 vote per clan.
2009-10-25, 14:37
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Yes of course having each player vote is the most fair solution, but the chances that every player in every clan will take effort to vote isn't that high, having each clan give one vote is more realistic.

The current solution allows a minority that doesn't even have to be participating in EQL to decide the map pool.
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