Plz, no.
Åke Vader, goniec or mushi to div3, but not Hagge.
Replace willgurht with goniec.

done

what do you have against me VVD?

krab/xenic from div1 to div2, goblin/kingpin from div2 to div1

well they both beat me : krab & xenic

and i beat goblin


maybe move me down and move kingpin up

Nepra should really be in div 2 or 3.

kingpin to div1 (or his vanity gonna be pushed seriously, check his recent aerotourney replics)
nepra - div2-3 fo sure(he kicks my ass at dm4 with ease)
creature - in my opinion is div2(although im already scarred with my div2 enemies)
xero and zero pwn too
medar and irvin are also div3-4 at leastest least(i saw medar beating hafog on aero, and hafog is div4 and he lives at aero)
peace!

and who the hell has stolen my nick here? B(

there is only place for 10 so we always need to move 1 out you tell me who?

and nepra has been like super rusty

Murdoc, lol you have come there for some easyfrags?
from my point you definitely should play in div1 too(and then overall div1 looks really good, fck this 10 men limit)

have you even seen me play duel ? stop comparing 4on4 with 1on1 its a whole different world

True I'm surprised i'm in div4 even.

murdoc, yeah, the reason im telling is i remember your ztntourney game versus Zepp which was really tight (although you lost it )
im not comparing 4on4 skill with duels at all

Look at ur results in QWDL 1. Nothing personal.

it seems less than optimal to have *everyone* including players, admins (adminplayers : ) ) decide about this. arguing about this could go on forever.

Without input on the whole list of signups, the divisions can never be fair.

The admins have the final decision, of course, but every added opinion on player skill makes their job easier.

We would like to thank for all the input here. Sometimes it is difficult to seed all players correctly, so this season there will be a few misplaced players again. The problem is that we have around 80 players from last season and 60 new ones. This and the fact that we had to move some players sometimes 2 or even 3 divisions, made the seeding this season a bit complicated again.

However, we are already planning to implement a new system for Season 3 which will make the whole procedure of creating the divisions a lot easier and smoother.

Till then have fun in Season 2!

when can we start playing? =)

Sign-ups open: Friday 13 February 2009 01:00 'WEST'

Sign-ups close: Saturday 28 February 2009 01:00 'WEST'

Season starts: Thursday 05 March 2009 01:00 'WEST'

I thought it would be 1 am (tonight), but as it seems it is 13:00 cet. If not, something is wrong with the system and grump has to have a look at it


[edit] ok as it seems it doesnt start automatically, so we have to wait for grump...

hi could you tell me why im in div3 now last week i was in div4, last season i was in div 5 on 4th place
my skill grow up 2 divs in 3 months?

something is wrong? GG

We just have less participants, so we have less divisions. I played last season in div 19 from a total of 24. This season I am in div 11 from a total of 14. the jump from div 4 to div 3 is because of VVD's suggestion.

I played in div6 (3rd place) and now in div4.

goniec: only 80 players signed up from last season

everyone: we are working on a way so that season 3 and on will respect your achievements (proper promotion/demotion etc)

yee i know but tom is 1 div better than me and he is in 3 and caban is my div and he is in 4

I played in div 10 and lost each and every match there. And i'm also listed in the original post as a player who didn't participate in the first season. I'm that shitty. Now i'm in div4. Let's make this a competition where people talks about their skills in great exaggartatating way (how the hell do you spell this piece of shit word). I also lost two friendly games against fisto with about 50 frags margin in both two maps we played. He is div7.

Um, in my div I ended 4th in season 1, mipa, peppe and dr.nasander ended all worse. Now they all are in higher divs?! Seriously, this is basic stuff you are expected to get right first time.

the divisions has been up for what? 2 weeks, and people have had a fair chance to give feedback... that has resulted in a lot of players been moved around. I dont see why anyone bothers with this once the league has launched.

Noob!

I was in div4 together with Flamer, devil and others for quite a lot of time. Someone from your team fucked it up in the last minute. There is no good reason why I was moved so much lower, it's a cardinal mistake and you should call someone from your team noob and not me. This is last the input I give to this league, I had enough.

Really, I don't bother, but you should as it is YOU who have fucked up. One of the most repeated sentences was "results from season 1 will be used in season 2 seedings". You and your team have failed big time.

true, you should be in div5 instead of peppe atleast.

I was the main guy saying that, because i believed it was the best and helped keep the league interesting. But, as an admin said. "too much time has passed since the end of the first season", so they (we) didn't use it. I disagreed big time ofc. Things started bad this season. I understand you're upset johnny, but you aren't the worst case. Looking at your div, i think it has good players who will give a good fight.

It's the players turn, play your games. next season, FOR SURE, we will respect promotions and relegations. We will have problems implementing this, because there will be new players and there will be players that won't signup for next season. So, this feeling of "unfairness" may return next season. oh well. lets just play!