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2007-09-29, 21:42
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i have always played shooters with the same sens for every gun.. but is it recommended to play with lower sens for the shaft? or does this realy fucks your aim?
2007-09-29, 22:12
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I have been thinking the same.

I still think if you spend 200hours using lower sens and 200hours using the higher, you are not as good with either of them as you would be if you had played 400hours using the same sens. Not sure about this..
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2007-09-29, 23:17
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I lean towards the opinion that you can't have an optimal cfg for both rl and lg at the same time, since they are very different kind of weapons, thus I use very different settings when shafting... Of course, it's hard to say anything definite about this.
2007-09-29, 23:30
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camquake has adaptive shaft sens which depends on the distance to the enemy only suitable for 1on1 tho :>
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2007-09-30, 10:04
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I use ~half the original sens when shafting
But i play with pretty high sens tho
2007-09-30, 10:05
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anyone ever had a poll on this? whats used the most?
2007-09-30, 10:53
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It´s all about what you are used to. Swiching to lower sens might feel good in the beginning, but in the end i think its better to find a sens that works with all weapons. Practice, practice... Besides that i think its pretty "map-independent": On povdmm4 it might feel good with special shaftsens, but in-game (4on4 for example) with a lot of action and speed, i guess it could harm your aim as well, specially since enemys gets closer to you than in pov...

Conclusion: I´ve always used same sens for all wepons, and never have any trouble aiming with rl and lg...
2007-10-24, 14:07
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I've used special cfg to play one map (amphi2) in LGC2 comp and I got shaft 49.2%. I think the cfg added about 3-6% to my shaft. Not that much, but still. On the other hand I'd be pissed off to play with this config:

cl_fakeshaft 1
cl_rollalfa 1
cl_rollangle 2
sensitivity 10 (400 dpi)
fov 91

When usually I use:

cl_fakeshaft 0
cl_rollalfa 0
cl_rollangle 0
sensitivity 20
fov 120
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2007-10-24, 15:46
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Yeah I slightly tweaked cfg for LGC2 - 50% fakeshaft, gl_shaftlight 0 and a slightly more extreme rollangle. With that I get over 50% shaft on most maps.
Didn't know about that cl_rollalpha command though, should prove useful.
I also experiment with lower FOV at times.

My long term aim is to incorporate some of these tweaks into my normal config.

I have also tried using a cfg that lowers sens when LG is selected but found it too hard to adjust to... I then tend to lag behind the opponent a bit when they are moving across me. Essentially I've always been quite a 'high-sens' shafter anyway in terms of the somewhat jerky way I aim and reliance on strafing rather than mouse movements where possible.
2007-10-24, 17:27
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I use the same sens for all weapons.

End of discussion, close this topic.
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2007-10-24, 18:05
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the-interceptor wrote:
I use the same sens for all weapons.

End of discussion, close this topic.

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2007-10-24, 21:07
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2007-10-27, 09:25
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i have a nicish lower sens and different crosshair for lg, and enabling and disabling zoom and different adjusting with mouse scroll. i have shitty lg but i think my settings are nice
2007-10-27, 11:08
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mipa wrote:
i have a nicish lower sens and different crosshair for lg, and enabling and disabling zoom and different adjusting with mouse scroll. i have shitty lg but i think my settings are nice

Yeah, I have this for lg:

alias +lg "impulse 8 5 3 2 4 1;crosshairimage shaft; crosshairsize 3; cl_crossx -1; cl_crossy 1; cl_rollangle 9; fov 100; sensitivity 2.5; m_pitch -0.030; +attack"
alias -lg "-attack; crosshairimage default; crosshairsize 1; cl_crossx 0; cl_crossy 1; cl_rollangle 0; fov 125; sensitivity 4.0; m_pitch -0.022; impulse 2"
2007-10-27, 12:50
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Unneccesairy code blAze ?

Here's mine...

alias saha "sensitivity 4.65" // Does the LG trick, change sens / cross etc. just edit
alias sahapois "sensitivity 9.4" // All other weapons sens


alias f_weaponchange "if $qt_$weapon$qt = $qt_$tp_name_lg$qt then saha else sahapois"

So when you use lg it apply the saha settings.
I love this code
2007-10-27, 13:35
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this is way hotter

bind MWHEELUP "bind mouse1 +shaft;echo EI ZOOMII"
bind MWHEELDOWN "bind mouse1 +shaft1;echo ZOOM"

alias +shaft "crosshaircolor 244; crosshair 7; crosshairsize 1; sensitivity 5.5;impulse 8 2;+attack"
alias -shaft "crosshaircolor 100; crosshair 3; sensitivity 7.6;-primary; crosshairsize 2"
alias +shaft1 "crosshaircolor 244; crosshair 7; crosshairsize 1; sensitivity 3.5;impulse 8 2;+attack;fov 80"
alias -shaft1 "crosshaircolor 100; crosshair 3; sensitivity 7.6;-primary; crosshairsize 2;fov 120"

that -primary is some shit from the cfg that came with fuhquake so might as well change it to impulse 2 1 if anyone evers going to use/look at this
2007-10-28, 00:35
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I think phren's way (f_weaponchange) is probably the best for a few reasons. If you start firing shaft while reloading rl, it wont zoom in until youre actually firing, and in the case that you dont have any cells, it wont zoom in while you fire the shotgun or whatever backup weapon you are using.

Disadvantage is, if you use w_switch 8 or b_switch 8, you might get very disoriented while picking up a lg or pack with lg in it.
2007-10-28, 12:31
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phren can u put the whole thing with binds and all? only zooming with shaft would be a nice bonus
2007-10-30, 14:44
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what do one gain by shafting with a lower fov?
2007-10-30, 14:53
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blAze, yes i can.. just add the +zoom alias to "saha" and -zoom to "sahapois"

- if you got the +zoom / -zoom aliases.
- or just add fov "x" to saha and fov "x" to sahapois



Zalon wrote:
what do one gain by shafting with a lower fov?

Feels like the opponent moves slower and you se him abit closer.
Helps me with my LG by a few 0,x% - 2,x% more percents LG.
But im only talking for myselfe there.
Tho i use same fov for both, 112.5



add: Im using sens 9.5, and sens 4.75 with my lg.
Just noticed that, haha.. no back thougt, it just became that
will my LG sensitivity.. never thougt (let's test half the sens).
Pretty cool
2007-10-30, 23:36
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I mean can you post it so I can see how it's used in a cfg because the alias looks kinda weird. I don't use zoom aliases, I just have what I posted above and then bind MOUSE3 +lg
2007-10-31, 13:06
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blAze wrote:
I mean can you post it so I can see how it's used in a cfg because the alias looks kinda weird. I don't use zoom aliases, I just have what I posted above and then bind MOUSE3 +lg

alias +shaft "impulse 8 3 2; +attack"
alias -shaft "impulse 2; -attack"

alias f_weaponchange "if $qt_$weapon$qt = $qt_$tp_name_lg$qt then saha else sahapois"

alias saha "sensitivity 4.75"
alias sahapois "sensitivity 9.5"


Then just bind a button (i have... Bind F "bind mouse1 +shaft"
and when you uses your lg, it uses the saha. When you stop fire, it goes back to sahapois.
If you want "zoom" fov just add "sensitivity x; fov x" to saha and add sensitivity x; fov x on sahapois.

Simple as that!
2007-11-01, 01:39
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Ok... So it just automatically uses that f_weaponchange even though it's not bound to a key nor included in another alias? I'll try it, thx.

edit: yeah it works, very nice.
2007-11-01, 12:15
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Good that i could help out
2007-11-01, 23:22
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phrenic wrote:
Feels like the opponent moves slower and you se him abit closer.
Helps me with my LG by a few 0,x% - 2,x% more percents LG.
But im only talking for myselfe there.
Tho i use same fov for both, 112.5

Well actually with smaller fov, opponents always move faster compared to the area you see :F But since the field of view is smaller, it seems like everything in qw is slower when actually it's not
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