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ession Start: Fri Jan 27 11:08:26 2006 Session Ident: armadon 060127 [11:08:26] Session Ident: armadon (~armadon@195.225.129.66) 060127 [11:08:26] <armadon> hey 060127 [11:08:29] <Hangman-> hey 060127 [11:08:33] <armadon> :) 060127 [11:08:36] <Hangman-> sad 060127 [11:08:36] <armadon> my bad english 060127 [11:08:40] <armadon> nope 060127 [11:08:48] <armadon> i see now moment in dm3 060127 [11:08:51] <armadon> 9^25 060127 [11:08:56] <Hangman-> yea 060127 [11:09:23] <armadon> you mean in 9^25 use aimbot? 060127 [11:09:31] <Hangman-> with lg yea 060127 [11:09:35] <armadon> why? 060127 [11:09:46] <Hangman-> well, the whole e1m2 speaks for itselfe 060127 [11:09:57] <Hangman-> he uses sg all the time, and he have 50%+ 060127 [11:10:22] <armadon> he started fire shaft whrn see light from quadded enemy 060127 [11:10:28] <armadon> he started fire shaft when see light from quadded enemy 060127 [11:10:38] <Hangman-> yea, still, its glued 060127 [11:10:42] <Hangman-> at the torso 060127 [11:12:08] <armadon> why you think what he dont can so fire? 060127 [11:12:18] <armadon> ILF STYLE 060127 [11:12:24] <armadon> fire in torso 060127 [11:12:31] <Hangman-> perhaps he can do that in dm3, if he have a lot of skills 060127 [11:12:34] <Hangman-> but e1m2 is so lol 060127 [11:12:39] <Hangman-> he cant even move! 060127 [11:12:42] <Hangman-> and he aims like that 060127 [11:12:46] <Hangman-> and when he respawna 060127 [11:12:55] <Hangman-> he look ar wery strange angles! 060127 [11:13:52] <armadon> hm 060127 [11:14:45] <armadon> wiat i translate your text :) 060127 [11:14:50] <Hangman-> hm!? 060127 [11:14:50] <Hangman-> :D 060127 [11:14:51] <armadon> bad speak english 060127 [11:14:55] <armadon> :) 060127 [11:14:56] <Hangman-> its ok 060127 [11:15:08] <Hangman-> want me to be clearer? 060127 [11:15:10] <Hangman-> i can translate 060127 [11:15:21] <armadon> how? 060127 [11:15:27] <armadon> you can translate onr ussian? 060127 [11:15:28] <Hangman-> tell me what you dont uderstand 060127 [11:15:34] <Hangman-> a can say it on anoither way 060127 [11:15:35] <armadon> lot 060127 [11:15:37] <Hangman-> i can be clearer 060127 [11:15:47] <armadon> perhaps 060127 [11:15:53] <Hangman-> you under stand respawn? 060127 [11:16:03] <Hangman-> when he is killed 060127 [11:16:03] <armadon> yeah 060127 [11:16:08] <Hangman-> and then he respawns 060127 [11:16:12] <armadon> :)) hang 060127 [11:16:13] <Hangman-> then his crosshair 060127 [11:16:19] <Hangman-> its not looking forwars 060127 [11:16:26] <Hangman-> its not looking normal 060127 [11:16:34] <Hangman-> its looks like to the side 060127 [11:16:40] <Hangman-> sometimes to the top 060127 [11:16:47] <Hangman-> sometimes he looks to the back 060127 [11:16:52] <Hangman-> after he respawns 060127 [11:17:00] <armadon> hm 060127 [11:17:02] <armadon> hahahaha 060127 [11:17:04] <Hangman-> understand? 060127 [11:17:04] <armadon> wiat 060127 [11:17:05] <Hangman-> k 060127 [11:17:27] <armadon> you mean when he spawn he looking in back or top? or up? 060127 [11:17:44] <Hangman-> yea 060127 [11:17:47] <armadon> lol 060127 [11:17:50] <Hangman-> to strange places 060127 [11:17:51] <armadon> look he ping and pl 060127 [11:18:08] <Hangman-> look he ping and pl, and you say 50%sg is normal!?!?!??! 060127 [11:18:09] <armadon> i'm too manymore spawn looks to the back 060127 [11:18:22] <armadon> ILF very good player 060127 [11:18:28] <Hangman-> no 060127 [11:18:30] <Hangman-> he cant move 060127 [11:18:32] <armadon> Very good fires in boomst 060127 [11:18:41] <Hangman-> yea, with cheat! 060127 [11:18:48] <armadon> ye he not cat norml move but can normal fire 060127 [11:18:58] <armadon> cat=can 060127 [11:18:59] <Hangman-> no 060127 [11:19:05] <Hangman-> 50% sg istn normal!! 060127 [11:19:40] <armadon> ok 060127 [11:19:47] <armadon> i cionfused 060127 [11:19:50] <Hangman-> i understand 060127 [11:19:54] <Hangman-> you know him a lot? 060127 [11:19:59] <armadon> when first see Paradkos shaft 060127 [11:20:14] <armadon> but Paradoks too cheatr? 060127 [11:20:20] <Hangman-> no :D 060127 [11:20:26] <Hangman-> he dont have 50%sg 060127 [11:20:27] <armadon> ILF NOT CHEATR 060127 [11:20:37] <armadon> but have 35 lg 100% 060127 [11:20:37] <Hangman-> lol 060127 [11:21:29] <Hangman-> you serious? 060127 [11:21:54] <armadon> Hangman- : 060127 [11:21:57] <Hangman-> yea? 060127 [11:22:14] <armadon> hm 060127 [11:22:39] <armadon> dont knows right words on english what reed 060127 [11:22:50] <Hangman-> hm 060127 [11:22:53] <Hangman-> try? 060127 [11:22:53] <armadon> :) 060127 [11:22:56] <armadon> oki 060127 [11:24:50] <armadon> i mean what ILF first player who can fires that style ... and he not can normal move and normal fires rl but very nice fires boomst and shaft --> manymore trenings on povdmm4 and e1m2 home map Ilf 060127 [11:25:25] <Hangman-> hm, aim is one thing 060127 [11:25:33] <Hangman-> but its glued to the torso 060127 [11:25:40] <armadon> ûåùç 060127 [11:25:42] <armadon> stop 060127 [11:25:46] <Hangman-> the crosshair is EXTREAMELY focused 060127 [11:25:49] <Hangman-> stop? 060127 [11:25:49] <armadon> glued translkate pls 060127 [11:25:52] <Hangman-> hm 060127 [11:25:54] <Hangman-> glue 060127 [11:26:11] <Hangman-> thats what you use to make something get together 060127 [11:26:18] <Hangman-> paper + glue + paper 060127 [11:26:26] <Hangman-> two papers togheter 060127 [11:26:50] <armadon> fff 060127 [11:26:57] <Hangman-> http://www.rockingham.k12.va.us/sound_sorting/initial_blends/gl/images/glue.jpg 060127 [11:26:58] <armadon> à à à 060127 [11:26:58] <Hangman-> that 060127 [11:27:11] <armadon> understand 060127 [11:27:14] <Hangman-> good 060127 [11:27:15] <armadon> :) 060127 [11:27:18] <Hangman-> you cant aim like the 060127 [11:27:24] <Hangman-> its stucked on the person 060127 [11:27:30] <armadon> on russian Kley 060127 [11:27:33] <Hangman-> aha 060127 [11:27:50] <armadon> he crosshair glue on enemy model .... you that mean? 060127 [11:28:03] <Hangman-> yea, its always on the enemy 060127 [11:28:07] <Hangman-> never moves away 060127 [11:28:13] <Hangman-> he dont move mouse 060127 [11:28:20] <Hangman-> the bot moves for him 060127 [11:28:27] <armadon> hm 060127 [11:28:57] <armadon> you mean what him mouse move bot, not ilf? 060127 [11:29:08] <armadon> when he fire? 060127 [11:29:10] <Hangman-> the bot moves crosshair 060127 [11:29:15] <Hangman-> and he fires 060127 [11:31:00] <armadon> hm 060127 [11:31:15] <armadon> Hangman- 060127 [11:31:17] <Hangman-> m? 060127 [11:31:41] <armadon> on 100 % i not can siad what Ilf not cheatr 060127 [11:31:51] <Hangman-> i understand 060127 [11:32:01] <armadon> but i very very very think he not cheatr 060127 [11:32:12] <Hangman-> i want to think he is not cheater 060127 [11:32:20] <armadon> I"M DONT PLAY WHIT CHEATR IN ONE TEAM :( 060127 [11:32:21] <Hangman-> but i see in demos he is cheater 060127 [11:32:29] <Hangman-> i understand :( 060127 [11:32:35] <Hangman-> he fooled you and all of us 060127 [11:32:43] <armadon> hm 060127 [11:32:58] <Hangman-> you understand? 060127 [11:33:01] <armadon> :( oki wiat to inteviws to Ilf 060127 [11:33:03] <armadon> today 060127 [11:33:07] <Hangman-> yea 060127 [11:33:07] <armadon> and i talk to him 060127 [11:33:12] <Hangman-> you know him irl? 060127 [11:34:20] <armadon> irl? 060127 [11:34:29] <armadon> what is it? 060127 [11:34:29] <Hangman-> in real life 060127 [11:34:40] <armadon> ye 060127 [11:36:22] <Hangman-> ok, sad for you 060127 [11:36:31] <armadon> oki 060127 [11:36:51] <Hangman-> can i post this log on forum? 060127 [11:37:52] <armadon> what for? 060127 [11:38:21] <Hangman-> for people to read? 060127 [11:38:28] <Hangman-> if you say no i dont do it 060127 [11:38:45] <armadon> Oki 060127 [11:38:48] <armadon> you can
its all sad 
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Reading that gave me a headache.
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they didnt check f_whatsoever ... but valla made a f_modified all models ok on him
they didnt check f_whatsoever ... but valla made a f_modified all models ok on him
To be absolutely sure you have to do:
f_version
/validate_clients
f_modified xxxxx
(replace xxxxx with a random number and check that the CRC reply for each client is the same)
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how many clans checking f_whatsoever ? ... it hasnt been a cheater since [E] paradoks cheat client cheapo 2.61 and qwradar 1.1
lol, he didnt use the qwradar
just the cheapo 2.61 which wasnt a cheat on it's own. it was built to answer all f_commands and coverup other cheats but afaik paradoks didnt use any other modifications.. so Mr Guest. Silence. 8)
We played with ilf @lans noone reocognised him cheating there! So! If u cant aim like him, stop envyin =0) then.
We played with ilf @lans noone reocognised him cheating there! So! If u cant aim like him, stop envyin =0) then.
No one is saying he's cheated before, or that he cheated on LANs. The simple fact is that he cheated in this EQL game.
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Stop fucking cover for him? What's your problem? All russians in the scene is blind or something? The demos S P E A K S for themself for god sake. Haven't seen anything like this in 5-6 years and it's fucking pathetic.. so ilf, please get lost and never return, ait.
Well, a good shafter or not he still can't beat nature's given reflexes to us humans.. When I measure the time it takes before the enemy is even visible ( dm3 at 9:28 ) to the time he has started firing shaft is about 3 seconds when the demospeed is slowed down to 0.25 which should give me 1/400 of realtime.
That gives us 3/400=0.0075 s, they say that faster reflexes than 0,1 s is impossible for a humanbeing, I guess that kinda states the fact.
Hilarious when Znappe (i think) has quad and goes YA->Bridge. Ilf is on stairs/upper bridge with shaft and nails him down in like a millisecond and Znappe goes "wtf?".
It's a very sad thing that cheating goes on and i really hope that there aren't any more players who use those shitty things.
Guys, this is a bad example. ~3 seconds before it happends he might see the quadded enemy at ya, ~1 second before he see the powerupglow thru the wall and the quadded enemy jumps on a grenade. IE he knows for sure that the quadded enemy is there and simply aim at the glow that shines thru the wall. There are much better examples, like ~18:something at e1m2, around ya.
they didnt check f_whatsoever ... but valla made a f_modified all models ok on him
To be absolutely sure you have to do:
f_version
/validate_clients
f_modified xxxxx
(replace xxxxx with a random number and check that the CRC reply for each client is the same)
Now this is the important lesson, f_modified checks for modified models, not hacked clients. Please do the check above before every game, yes there might be some debate the two or three first matches but it's not that hard to start the clients correctly, eventually everyone will learn it.
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quote:
Now this is the important lesson, f_modified checks for modified models, not hacked clients.
how many hacked client has it been the last 6years ?.. like 1 or 2?
Watch the E1M2 demo with demo_setspeed 30% and it's totally obvious from the way his crosshair moves and snaps onto the dead centre of enemy torsoes...
Term: Why did you change my name to "wm" in that quote? 
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haha. either this is an aimbot, or it's me faking. and i can't remember faking as ilf, so it must be an aimbot. :twisted:
seriously though, how can anyone even suggest that this isn't an aimbot in action? he is very clever, only turning the aimbot on when he already put the crosshair where the aimbot usally centers it. clever might be the wrong word to use for a guy who's using an aimbot in a 10 year old game. its funny to see him spending cells shooting at nothing, even when the enemy is already spawned (povdmm4 demo). best demo ever.

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LOOOOL INTER =DDDDD
LOOK!!! HERE IS SOME MORE BLAH BLAH BLAH
armadon: ny blin koneshno yasno sho ty ne hocesh igrat s chiterom, no demki yasno pokazivaut 
LOOK!!! HERE IS SOME MORE BLAH BLAH BLAH
armadon: ny blin koneshno yasno sho ty ne hocesh igrat s chiterom, no demki yasno pokazivaut 
I would like to see ilf playing e1m2 again after f_modified and another checks.
What about if he still would have 50% sg? 
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I would like to see ilf playing e1m2 again after f_modified and another checks.
What about if he still would have 50% sg?
Then I'd suggest we vote for him as president of the High QW Council.
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I think we should give him a chance... If he wants to prove... 
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Then I'd suggest we vote for him as president of the High QW Council.

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LOL!!!
i didn't use aimbot, and all you've said is a "placebo-effect"
. Sorry my english is very bad 
LOL!!!
i didn't use aimbot, and all you've said is a "placebo-effect"
. Sorry my english is very bad 
Let me to tell you some history...
I know Ilf very well personally and i saw how he take his shaftskill...
From 1.5 years ago till this days.
Ilf has started to train his shaft like mad after ASUS Winter 2004 champ, where i has raped him on LAN with 44% (my) shaft versus 18% (his).
witka (most active player at russian QW scene) was there too - you not, so just listen. We are with witka has played 1000000 times povdmm4 vs Ilf and has trained him to this good shape. We saw how his skill has grown. Secret is simple: soft320x200 + extremely small sensitivity on shaft (bad moving confirm this). WITHOUT ANY AIMBOTS.
But with understanding concern of dear QW community, I want to offer to check up something to resolve this trouble.
When Ilf will arrive to Moscow we organize some competition.
Rules: Inetcafe computers, any map, any player can give his QW distro to Ilf, Ilf editing cfg and playing. Spectators are welcome. Lets see...
P.S. Who am I? Check this out: http://quakeworld.ru/p.?id=901
Here I am, Paradoks and DARKLORD.
I just read that ilf has replied on the qw.ru forum, can some1 translate it?
http://quakeworld.ru/forum/read.php?f=4 … sgstart=81
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he he, if this ilf-guy knew that well how all the different players move, then it's quite strange he sucks with all weapons except sg and lg... As rl 4 example is just as much if not more prediction than sg/lg. I especially liked the parts where he was in closecombat sg-duels, doing lots of turns and his crosshair was glued to the enemies despite his "extremely small sensitivity" (to quote mr UnKnown)
Sometimes, the truth is difficult.
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just got some info that there is a showdown going on tonight
between ILF and ParadokS ?
ILF want to prove that he is not cheating
its gonna be played on Povdmm4!!
well thats all the information I got..
I will not be there watching but however the outcome will be on that showdown it wont change my mind on ilf in those EQL games!
Im 100% sure that he cheated!
EDIT: Im not 100% sure if para is playing or if a game will take place, just roumors
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cams cams cams pls


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Let me to tell you some history...
I know Ilf very well personally and i saw how he take his shaftskill...
From 1.5 years ago till this days.
Ilf has started to train his shaft like mad after ASUS Winter 2004 champ, where i has raped him on LAN with 44% (my) shaft versus 18% (his).
witka (most active player at russian QW scene) was there too - you not, so just listen. We are with witka has played 1000000 times povdmm4 vs Ilf and has trained him to this good shape. We saw how his skill has grown. Secret is simple: soft320x200 + extremely small sensitivity on shaft (bad moving confirm this). WITHOUT ANY AIMBOTS.
But with understanding concern of dear QW community, I want to offer to check up something to resolve this trouble.
When Ilf will arrive to Moscow we organize some competition.
Rules: Inetcafe computers, any map, any player can give his QW distro to Ilf, Ilf editing cfg and playing. Spectators are welcome. Lets see...
P.S. Who am I? Check this out: http://quakeworld.ru/p.?id=901
Here I am, Paradoks and DARKLORD.
now i will tell you a story... download http://213.113.151.150/aimbot-ilf-nnm/4 … 598.mvd.gz
demo_jump 17:35 spec clive or ilf demo_setspeed 10....
Let me to tell you some history...
I know Ilf very well personally and i saw how he take his shaftskill...
From 1.5 years ago till this days.
Ilf has started to train his shaft like mad after ASUS Winter 2004 champ, where i has raped him on LAN with 44% (my) shaft versus 18% (his).
witka (most active player at russian QW scene) was there too - you not, so just listen. We are with witka has played 1000000 times povdmm4 vs Ilf and has trained him to this good shape. We saw how his skill has grown. Secret is simple: soft320x200 + extremely small sensitivity on shaft (bad moving confirm this). WITHOUT ANY AIMBOTS.
But with understanding concern of dear QW community, I want to offer to check up something to resolve this trouble.
When Ilf will arrive to Moscow we organize some competition.
Rules: Inetcafe computers, any map, any player can give his QW distro to Ilf, Ilf editing cfg and playing. Spectators are welcome. Lets see...
P.S. Who am I? Check this out: http://quakeworld.ru/p.?id=901
Here I am, Paradoks and DARKLORD.
now i will tell you a story... download http://213.113.151.150/aimbot-ilf-nnm/4 … 598.mvd.gz
demo_jump 17:35 spec clive or ilf demo_setspeed 10....
Let me to tell you some history...
I know Ilf very well personally and i saw how he take his shaftskill...
From 1.5 years ago till this days.
Ilf has started to train his shaft like mad after ASUS Winter 2004 champ, where i has raped him on LAN with 44% (my) shaft versus 18% (his).
witka (most active player at russian QW scene) was there too - you not, so just listen. We are with witka has played 1000000 times povdmm4 vs Ilf and has trained him to this good shape. We saw how his skill has grown. Secret is simple: soft320x200 + extremely small sensitivity on shaft (bad moving confirm this). WITHOUT ANY AIMBOTS.
But with understanding concern of dear QW community, I want to offer to check up something to resolve this trouble.
When Ilf will arrive to Moscow we organize some competition.
Rules: Inetcafe computers, any map, any player can give his QW distro to Ilf, Ilf editing cfg and playing. Spectators are welcome. Lets see...
P.S. Who am I? Check this out: http://quakeworld.ru/p.?id=901
Here I am, Paradoks and DARKLORD.
now i will tell you a story. Download http://213.113.151.150/aimbot-ilf-nnm/4 … 598.mvd.gz
demo_jump 17:35 spec clive or ilf demo_setspeed 10.... are you sooo *ucking retarded that you cant see ?
Secret is simple: soft320x200 + extremely small sensitivity on shaft (bad moving confirm this). WITHOUT ANY AIMBOTS.
how come that the extremly 'small' sens changes as the enemies speed change? thats a secret _i_ wanna know.

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he he, if this ilf-guy knew that well how all the different players move, then it's quite strange he sucks with all weapons except sg and lg... As rl 4 example is just as much if not more prediction than sg/lg. I especially liked the parts where he was in closecombat sg-duels, doing lots of turns and his crosshair was glued to the enemies despite his "extremely small sensitivity" (to quote mr UnKnown)
Sometimes, the truth is difficult.
how low sens you do you speak about?, lower sens speed then the speed of the enemy ? [bad egnlish]
This is just hilarious. Are all russians in favor of cheating or are they just easily deceived? It's so very obvious!
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i wanna try his super low sens config, you can find me in freedom with the nick almeida
Ilf's post on quakeworld.ru translation
Author: ilf_ (84.17.229.---)
Date: 30 Jan 2006 13:27
LOL!!!
))))))))
Thats a glory
So what i can say about this, seriously: everyone remains with his own opinion - does not matter what i would tell , then i offer (smart Starling's idea after x-litr's of beer), anyone can do any checking, may be at Tuesday, when I shall be on work till 24, to all others i offer to wait till I can arrive to Moscow. Cant arrive earlier. <skip> So waiting for march when in MSK inetcafe Ill play on clear computer and with your downloaded client (if it still will not banned at this time, sure
), my skins, wad, cfg and bat I shall bring if its neÑ?essary
p.s. at dm3 just lol, 2 killed quaders
a) at high bridge it was visible because of a wall shined, and that he not got me a quadrocket - only his problem
b) quote from this forum >
Well, a good shafter or not he still can't beat nature's given reflexes to us
humans.. When I measure the time it takes before the enemy is even visible
( dm3 at 9:28 ) to the time he has started firing shaft is about 3 seconds
when the demospeed is slowed down to 0.25 which should give me 1/400 of
realtime.
That gives us 3/400=0.0075 s, they say that faster reflexes than 0,1 s is
impossible for a humanbeing, I guess that kinda states the fact.
starting ilf's answer>
im not a prof in math, its for Uzhas, but in my opinion this bastard was mistaken on 100, let him buy a abc-book, im so sorry that i cant speak english, "cl_demospeed "1"" - i've got too, what about reflexes - is was after Bryansk beer, that bring me Chopper himself
2almeida
stop whine little boy
check this:
http://quakeworld.ru/demo.: )?id=866
(copy full string, erase space after ":" )
demo_setspeed 10
pov reppie
demo_jump 2:10
OMG REPPIE IS CHEATRRR TWICE !
what?
Ah this is just mvd interpolation...
check out any your shaft moment in any mvd demo on demo_setspeed 10 -
then you'll find that you are cheating...
Dont trust your eyes - knowledge is a power...
2almeida
stop whine little boy
check this:
http://quakeworld.ru/demo.: )?id=866
(copy full string, erase space after ":" )
demo_setspeed 10
pov reppie
demo_jump 2:10
OMG REPPIE IS CHEATRRR TWICE !
what?
Ah this is just mvd interpolation...
check out any your shaft moment in any mvd demo on demo_setspeed 10 -
then you'll find that you are cheating...
Dont trust your eyes - knowledge is a power...
There are certain differences between a human and an actual aimbot in terms of mouse movement.
Heres an avi of two different clips, one human other one ilf.
http://213.113.151.150/aimbot-ilf-nnm/ilf.avi
Watch that clip and you'll see. It might not be the best, but I didn't care to watch every ilf demo for more proof, its even obvious in 100% speed.
Besides that reppie demo your refering to is absolute bs 
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