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2008-12-16, 21:11
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Thanks everyone

empezar: absolutely agree! the proportions are completely messed up and unrealistic... i'll be changing some stuff as I go through now making the low poly for each part. Will definitely be making the boots smaller.

Guran: no idea, most likely different. You know you can't see yourself in single player yeah? hehe
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2008-12-16, 23:04
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Ok... did up the head in low poly.. currently sitting at 1k (I plan on this character being around 5k total)

http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=head02jl9.jpg

That's with normalmap, and just ambient occlusion as the diffuse texture

Oh.. and no teeth/eyes
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2008-12-17, 00:23
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Electro wrote:
Ok... did up the head in low poly.. currently sitting at 1k (I plan on this character being around 5k total)

http://img224.imageshack.us/my.php?image=head02jl9.jpg

That's with normalmap, and just ambient occlusion as the diffuse texture

Oh.. and no teeth/eyes

he looks hellbent on lodging a quad rocket up someone's ass
2008-12-17, 01:14
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torso low poly:
http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=torso02pm0.jpg
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2008-12-17, 02:28
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shoulder low poly:
http://img383.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shoulderlowsi0.jpg

few glitches, should iron out later on
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2008-12-17, 04:49
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boot:
http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bootlow01ui4.jpg
http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bootlow01bbx2.jpg

Yes i know there's seams, it's in the normalmap, will paint them out later in texturing stage.
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2008-12-17, 07:09
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Looks awesome, cant wait to see more
2008-12-17, 12:47
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Looks nice. How about making his shoe size a bit larger? I would never fit my feet in those shoes
2008-12-17, 13:05
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Electro wrote:
boot:
http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bootlow01ui4.jpg
http://img410.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bootlow01bbx2.jpg

Yes i know there's seams, it's in the normalmap, will paint them out later in texturing stage.

yeah, they look sorta like something a chick would wear. it would look way better longer
2008-12-17, 13:32
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other than that, everyone. I believe this man will make THE md3 Quakeguy for Quake. =]
2008-12-17, 14:56
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Thinking outside the box, what if the "flapage" from the calf to the ankle were gaiters?
http://www.dregsld.com/QW/Boot_Gaiter.jpg
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2008-12-17, 18:15
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Electro wrote:
people think they're knee protectors, but i think they're actually thigh pads, at least that's what they're as on the q3 ranger

haha, strange.. you're right about the pads, but it is strange. thigh pads is more for sports than war. if you're fighting for your life they would just be in the way... sounds just like something the graphic makers invented when they did the model.

Amazing job Electro! Are you gonna do the texturing too?
2008-12-17, 20:16
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http://www.gamersgallery.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/60545/size/big/cat/
Take a look at the boots on him, that's what I've based them off. It actually matches up, but looks a bit more odd when it's higher poly!
Can easily make them slightly longer though.
They're sort of like leather ugg boots, which are very girly.. urgh. Such a STUPID design, but unfortunately I'm trying to make it for the most part faithful, so that means enduring all the stupidities.

GODIS!: thanks! and yeah, sure will
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2008-12-17, 22:47
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Yeah, make it faithful.. Not your fault that it is a stupid design
2008-12-17, 23:13
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Electro wrote:
http://www.gamersgallery.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/60545/size/big/cat/

That is such a nice picture to model from, still faithful, but detailed.
2008-12-18, 05:34
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arm low poly done:
http://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?image=arm02ew6.jpg

yes that's everything in seperate elements modeled low poly
now to combine them together onto 1 uv set and rebake the objects, shouldn't take long!

full low poly pic with polygon count details etc. tomorrow
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2008-12-18, 09:40
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is it possible to make the uv's as they are original right now.. I know they are in an old style, but then u maby would be able to use old skins? but the new model maby is to different from the old one?
2008-12-18, 16:43
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Electro wrote:
http://www.gamersgallery.com/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/60545/size/big/cat/
Take a look at the boots on him, that's what I've based them off. It actually matches up, but looks a bit more odd when it's higher poly!
Can easily make them slightly longer though.
They're sort of like leather ugg boots, which are very girly.. urgh. Such a STUPID design, but unfortunately I'm trying to make it for the most part faithful, so that means enduring all the stupidities.

GODIS!: thanks! and yeah, sure will

I didn't know he was 6'5! what a big guy, he should play football in his spare time.
2008-12-18, 17:30
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I told santa that this was what i wanted for christmas
2008-12-18, 21:58
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GODIS: it'd be great to be able to make use of all the skins out there, but unfortunately it's not that simple. It could in theory be possible to fit this model onto the uv's of the original quake guy texture, but there will be stretching and distortion. The use of other textures/skins for diffuse will mean that the normalmap and specular would then be invalid and unable to be used. I WAS considering the possibility of uv'ing it to the quake3 version as that's a closer match... but even those uv's are pretty awkward to work with. We'll just have to move forward with a new one!
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2008-12-18, 22:09
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yeah, new one - and then support for custom skins by the server
2008-12-18, 23:17
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Zalon: won't it support custom skins already?! if not that's pretty lame :S

ok here's all the seperate low poly bits just thrown in together
http://img229.imageshack.us/my.php?image=q1ranger01lw8.jpg

Still some work to be done, and it's a bit too high poly still atm (10k) so i'd like to work on that, I can probably just get it down to 5k without much noticeable difference at all.
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2008-12-19, 00:16
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i like the fact that it's low poly and still looks awesome :]

so what about the animation? will you animate this? will it have the same frames as the original model? wouldn't more detail for the animation require changes to the engine?
very curious and looking very much forward to a skinned version.
2008-12-19, 01:15
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dEus: Yeah i'll animate it, I'll have to make sure the frames match up with the original because like you said, if they differ, it won't work in ANY mod that uses the player model. Which is kind of against what I'm trying to do!
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2008-12-19, 05:12
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Electro wrote:
GODIS: it'd be great to be able to make use of all the skins out there, but unfortunately it's not that simple. It could in theory be possible to fit this model onto the uv's of the original quake guy texture, but there will be stretching and distortion. The use of other textures/skins for diffuse will mean that the normalmap and specular would then be invalid and unable to be used. I WAS considering the possibility of uv'ing it to the quake3 version as that's a closer match... but even those uv's are pretty awkward to work with. We'll just have to move forward with a new one!

hehe that's is what i was thinking... I remember when q3 demo arrived and i was amazed by the uv's, haha btw, is there anything you need help with? unfortunatly i dont have access to my stationary computer in several months, but I bet there are alot of people here that would love to help you if you need it : >
2008-12-19, 09:15
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I have a skeleton animation for milkshape that i've used to convert models from other games in the past, dunno if this could be converted and then be of some kind of help?
2008-12-19, 12:00
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Huh, definition of "low poly" has changed pretty much xD UT2k4 models looks low poly compared to this model
2008-12-19, 13:40
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I think it's low poly, as in it fits in the md3 format
2008-12-19, 14:33
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Zalon wrote:
I have a skeleton animation for milkshape that i've used to convert models from other games in the past, dunno if this could be converted and then be of some kind of help?

Maybe he could use the animation made by SputnikUtah!


SputnikUtah wrote:
I'm a complete n00b to modeling, but was tinkering with 3dsmax and this mesh smoothing filter....

http://www.quakeone.com/qrack/screenshots/qghires.JPGhttp://www.quakeone.com/qrack/screenshots/qghires2.JPG

now if i can just save it to MD3 or MDL

Ruohis, would this .max file (complete with animations from plague i think) help as a stencil?

http://www.quakeone.com/qrack/quakeguy-hires.max
http://www.quakeone.com/qrack/player_complete_animations.pts
https://tinyurl.com/qwbrasil - QuakeFiles
2008-12-21, 12:26
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Ah, might help as reference, but I'll be doing my own rig and animations. Something I like from team fortress 2 is the facial expressions of characters, mainly noticable in demos and screenshots.. but yeah. Hopefully I won't get too bored and actually rig up the face so I can do some things with attacks and pain animations and things

Herb: ut2004 was made a looong time ago (says a q1 developer HEHE). I will be getting the polygon count down more though. Will still be higher than ut2k4 though.

GODIS!: hmm... I can't think of anything I need help with. *shrug*
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